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Old 01-27-2016, 08:16 PM   #1
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So I am going to frame a ceiling in a room with plaster walls. What kind of mud works the best where the ceiling meets the walls or does it matter?
I will be framing at the same height where the acoustic drop ceiling was at

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Hot mud. its strong and hard like an oak tree

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Yup, 20 minute USG hot mud.
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Durabond hot mud, not easy sand for tape coat.

What is the reason for framing it down? In the pics it looks like a good candidate for an overlay of 1/2" or 5/8" with 2" screws. By the time the wall /ceiling intersection is taped/finish coated you will be down to the ceiling grid line.
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Durabond hot mud, not easy sand for tape coat.

What is the reason for framing it down? In the pics it looks like a good candidate for an overlay of 1/2" or 5/8" with 2" screws. By the time the wall /ceiling intersection is taped/finish coated you will be down to the ceiling grid line.
The existing ceiling is no where near flat. I was going to drop the plaster (that wasn't already falling) but it will be a much nicer finished product if I just frame a 2x6 ceiling
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Finished Celing will be flirting with 8'
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Why 2x6? In the past I've done this by running a 2x4 metal track across the perimeter and then using 2x4 metal stud for the joists. If span is too long you could hang a 2x4 from the original ceiling joists to the new metal studs at the middle to take out any sag.

Metal stud makes for an easy job to do with 1 person and a magnetic level

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That would definatley work. Longest span is 11'. I'm just used to using wood so it is my first thought. Did 2 rooms in my basement like this. (Double wide on a basement, so we couldn't put a lid on the bottom of the floor joists )
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First, metal studs are 3-5/8'' and second you could frame that with 1-5/8''studs too, if max height is needed.

And, A&E. I don't exactly understand your question.
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First, metal studs are 3-5/8'' and second you could frame that with 1-5/8''studs too, if max height is needed.

And, A&E. I don't exactly understand your question.
Just doing a bath, it had been redone in the 80s, I am sure they used greentop, couldn't tell. Current owners been there almost 40yrs. My replairs were done with durabond for taping, easysand to feather, greentop or easy to finish. We built a wall and fixed the poor patches from previous (water damage from vent pipe over many years and recessed medicine cab).

The smaller the room, the worse the plaster waves, lol.
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So I am going to frame a ceiling in a room with plaster walls. What kind of mud works the best where the ceiling meets the walls or does it matter?
I will be framing at the same height where the acoustic drop ceiling was at
Chalk line the joist and 5/8 over It. That's the cheapest way out.
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Chalk line the joist and 5/8 over It. That's the cheapest way out.
Ceiling has way to big of a sway in it for my liking, pic really doesn't do it justice. It would probably take longer to locate all the joists than it will to frame a new ceiling.
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I did think about that already though!
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And, A&E. I don't exactly understand your question.
I was just curious as to the preferred product for this situation for the best results.
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I was just curious as to the preferred product for this situation for the best results.
I use AP over plaster, or an admix if I'm using hot mud. You have to make sure it's going to stick to the plaster.
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Should I ask paper or mesh? Lol
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Why 2x6? In the past I've done this by running a 2x4 metal track across the perimeter and then using 2x4 metal stud for the joists. If span is too long you could hang a 2x4 from the original ceiling joists to the new metal studs at the middle to take out any sag.

Metal stud makes for an easy job to do with 1 person and a magnetic level

Gary
With that same logic, you can use 2x2's, I've done it before, you just have to install a couple more hangers.

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