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Old 10-30-2018, 08:26 PM   #1
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is only a flesh wound...

She got carefully power washed, loose mortar removal and surface profile with the Bosch dustless tuckpointer and some strategic brick replacement in preparation for a hard coat, skip trowel, elastomeric stucco finish...top to bottom.

She oughta look nicey, nicey when I'm done
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Old 10-30-2018, 08:34 PM   #2
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This one is getting my special supermud... fantastically fiberized, acrylic modifized and surfacely optimized
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At least the Swiss cheese bricks should give lots of surface area for the mud to stick.

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Was that fiber you added ? In the picture,it looked like chicken feathers. Just messing with ya. Great S.S. job as usual !
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Nycon Chicken feathers

They do come in handy when you're glueing things back together...
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So she's all textured up and curing out in some light rain...almost perfect conditions indeed. I added the fiber to all three coats and did a knock down version of a skip trowel finish.

Still to receive two coats of (white) masterprotect el750 once she cures out. The place is scheduled for a new roof in a couple of weeks so I'll be back for that as well once the flashings and decking is ripped around the chimney and I can access that.
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nice job. But what was the source of the brick spalling? Seems like it would be some freeze/thaw cycle . Wouldnt that continue, even after your repair?
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nice job. But what was the source of the brick spalling? Seems like it would be some freeze/thaw cycle . Wouldnt that continue, even after your repair?
The lining was the issue for the spalling...excess acidic condensation. Weather wise she's protected by the EL750. This will still be standing when were dead with all the fiber added.
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never did update the finished pics...new roof should be on by now I would think...
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Remember when the fonz would say "whoa".

Nice transformation!
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The lining was the issue for the spalling...excess acidic condensation. Weather wise she's protected by the EL750. This will still be standing when were dead with all the fiber added.
That is intriguing. Isn't that usually an "inside" side problem and not an exterior problem? I figured with the liner in place that problem would have been rectified.

(unless of course, the liner is also new).
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That is intriguing. Isn't that usually an "inside" side problem and not an exterior problem? I figured with the liner in place that problem would have been rectified.

(unless of course, the liner is also new).
It is a new liner...but regarding an inside vs outside...terra-cotta flues are joined at 2' intervals with joints that are usually askew from one another and well worn and deteriorated/missing. It's the easy passage for acidic condensation to the surrounding masonry.
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It is a new liner...but regarding an inside vs outside...terra-cotta flues are joined at 2' intervals with joints that are usually askew from one another and well worn and deteriorated/missing. It's the easy passage for acidic condensation to the surrounding masonry.



Very true ! I have never seen / used one of these accouterments,however,they seem like they could enhance the connection of the liners. It is a shame that T & G liners are only available in the U.S. in round. I understand they are available in all shapes in the U.K.. Another way to enhance the connection is to bevel the mating surfaces with an angle grinder. Needless to say,it is labor intensive. I saw that method explained in an old masonry book I have from the late Forties .

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Don't think I've seen one here Fred without spigot and socket ends. Is there an advantage to not having them?
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Not that I'm aware of Stuart. On the contrary,they are very problematic as S.S. pointed out. Problems being,gasses burning thru joints,leaving them open. Also,as we know,clay flues expand both in width and height. If a perfectly 1" air space is not maintained and mortar grabs the side of the liners,when they expand vertically they are restricted from going back in place as the liners cool. That starts the ball rolling with misalignment and mortar gaps. I try in all new builds to use round flues for two reasons,one the corners of square or rectangular liners should not be part of the air flow calculations,secondly,round flues have the socket to add to a much better fit.

Here is a video depicting a re-line of a round flue,note the socket.

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