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Old 06-29-2017, 06:53 AM   #1
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Well since My guys can't seem to keep the mud consistent I was wondering if anyone on here might be able to share a 5 gallon bucket method of how to mix mortar for block work. We use 1 80 lb bag of Portland cement 1 50 lb bag of lime and they always screw the sand amount up beings as though they shovel it into the mixer. So it just isn't consistent and it's driving me nuts!!!!! Anyone know exactly how many 5 gallon buckets of sand may be used in order to make block mud properly? Any tips would help!!
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Old 06-29-2017, 07:24 AM   #2
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How much do you pay a "mud mixer" compared to mason?

I have many mason contractor friends that feel the mud mixer is the most important man on the crew. A good wall requires consistent mortar to get the best productivity/quality out of a block layer. - On some small crews the mixer man runs the job and gets paid more per hour.

Counting pails can be easier for some masons that forget the higher numbers.

5 gallon pails is a little sloppy to adjust for the moisture content of the sand. Shovels give you more control unless you have a silo set-up for proportioning or weighing.

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You adjust for sand, or you adjust for moisture in the sand?
Im not a mud guy, or a mason, but you guys seem to like your own blends of creaminess, if thats a good description.
One mud guy I used always filled some set amount of sand , and used less water- adding water as needed to get his final consistancy. He used a larger water bottle (1 qt?), and once he got it dialed in, he would add that amount more to the water. He was fast.
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I believe its 5-5 gallon buckets per bag of masonry cement

For consistency i have 6 buckets by the mixer one for water and the rest for sand. I dont even start the mixer until the buckets are full of sand. Start the machine put water first then 1 buckets of sand followed by bag of cement. Let mix for a second and I always walk away and let the dust settle down then I add the other 4 buckets and water as necessary


Never deviate and its the same...make it too wet and need more sand? I always have an open bag of cement there to add 3 shovels of sand and 1 cement

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when the mix is creaping over the center shaft of the mixer paddles, you got about enough sand.

Remember guys, were not splitting the atom here....
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when the mix is creaping over the center shaft of the mixer paddles, you got about enough sand.

Remember guys, were not splitting the atom here....


Very true. But when you have a knucklehead mixing mud we have to keep it simple!

I have been using the middle of the center shaft method for 30 years haha


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This gadget will make things idiot proof,don't know if it is still produced though.

http://www.masonryconstruction.com/p...ng-made-easy_o
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when the mix is creaping over the center shaft of the mixer paddles, you got about enough sand.

Remember guys, were not splitting the atom here....


I'm sure that method works in some situations,however,it is very subjective . Mixers come in various sizes,usually referred to by either bag capacity,hence 1,2,3 bag or cubic feet. So,putting one bag in a 3 bag mixer and filling to shaft with sand would be extremely problematic to say the least.
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Spec-mix.

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