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Old 04-17-2019, 09:36 AM   #1
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Point Or Parge?


My pet landlord wants me to do something with this foundation wall to keep water out of the basement. He's talking about parging.

The stones were set with lime or lime/dirt mortar, which has eroded tremendously. Some joints are open 3-4" in.

Is this actually a valid candidate for parging, or is that just a stoopid idea?
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Old 04-17-2019, 11:07 AM   #2
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You aren't keeping water out of that basement.

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I'd view what he wants done as almost purely cosmetic. It will also cut down on drafts and critters.
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I agree, and told him that. He still wants to give it a shot.

Truth be told, I'd sooner parge it than point it. I only own one set of kneepads, and that thing's 30' long.
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I agree, and told him that. He still wants to give it a shot.

Truth be told, I'd sooner parge it than point it. I only own one set of kneepads, and that thing's 30' long.
I'd parge it as a cosmetic with some benefit.
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What is a pet landlord?
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what is parge?
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what is parge?


Pack mortar over entire area and smooth out.
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What is a pet landlord?
Kind of like a dog. It loves me, is always happy to see me, fills up my spare time.

Unlike a dog, it gives me money instead of slobbery tongue-licks.
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Pack mortar over entire area and smooth out.
Like back plastering
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Like back plastering


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Not to be confused with pargeting.
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Not to be confused with pargeting.
And let us not confuse it with render.
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I'd go at it with my quick point, but that's me.

Id still point it, put a gutter on.
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Thanks, Jeff. I do have access to a Quickpoint if I go that way, and wouldn't tackle this one without it. Thing is, I have no confidence that I could come anywhere close to matching the existing mortar, and I've always heard that's pretty important for a lasting job.

My thinking is that parging would make that unnecessary, since all the joints would be hidden and protected. And I could glob the goop on indiscriminately without worrying about staining the stones.

There are gutters in place, but those on this house and the one five feet away sometimes get overwhelmed. Quite a bit of roof surface on both houses, and not so great drainage on the "slab" between them. 100+ years of hacks and patches all over that neighborhood...
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If your sure it's lime mortar I'd just order a bag of nhl 2.5 from limeworks.us and add your own Mason's sand. I've got that to go through the QP.

Leave it for a while and then press it in with a wide, lol, jointer, or round shovel even lol
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I'd go at it with my quick point, but that's me.

Id still point it, put a gutter on.




The quick point would be the berries. Also as JBM said,gutters and proper grading around the building will work wonders to alleviate water issues.
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Yeah, it's definitely lime.

Probably need a scoop shovel for some of those joints.

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The grading is what it is. Basically concrete sidewalk with a bit of a dip running down the middle and very little pitch to the length. No way he's going to spend the money to re-do that.

I have this love/hate thing about working on rentals. It's quick easy money, but you have to anesthetize your QC.
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Yeah, it's definitely lime.

Probably need a scoop shovel for some of those joints.

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Or at the least,the business end of a ball bat.

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