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Old 02-21-2013, 07:42 PM   #21
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Weird, it was this guy, I don't know why I thought it was you Stonecutter. Doesn't look like your work at all

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Old 02-21-2013, 07:43 PM   #22
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This one?

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It wasn't reclaimed...but it was the old mantle, I just painted it.
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look up, but yes that was the one I thought it was. That or the one that nhad the really big granite lintel over the FP opening (or was it a big granite mantle...I'm 2nd guessing everything I remember about your work now)
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Weird, it was this guy, I don't know why I thought it was you Stonecutter. Doesn't look like your work at all

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Nope not mine.
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Nope not mine.
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look up, but yes that was the one I thought it was. That or the one that nhad the really big granite lintel over the FP opening (or was it a big granite mantle...I'm 2nd guessing everything I remember about your work now)
I'm starting to understand how your post count shot past mine!
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Anyway, this thread doesn't matter as much anymore..... didn't get it
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Its pretty much the same...price wise It really depends on how heavy the material you working with is and how tight they want it.

You can always make argument in regards to that and bid what you feel like.

I did couple of thin veneer jobs and only thing I can say is that if customer wants it real tight and wants it for same price as cultured stone,its not worth it. Period
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The only other thing that was'nt mentioned is that if you get any mortar smears on the cultured stone you can't clean it with muriatic acid as you can with natural thin veneer .
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The only other thing that was'nt mentioned is that if you get any mortar smears on the cultured stone you can't clean it with muriatic acid as you can with natural thin veneer .
i have found that vinegar and water works well for cultured stone.
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I got this job after all. I have no idea how you could make this stuff look good without buying 2 or 3x the amount (and it costs 30% more per sqft than the regular stuff) and charging at least as much per sqft or more as the real deal. The stone isn't rocked at all, and some stones are 1" thick maybe more, other are 0.5" maybe. The owners are happy though so that what counts. I'll grab a pic if I remember tomorrow.
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Ive done some cultured stone that I thought for sure people wouldnt like. They always love it though. Cant figure it out. Thankfully thin stone is becoming popular, were going back the right direction anyways.
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While more expensive than the real dimensional stone, it is a bit cheaper than cultured stone, 10 or 15% cheaper. But add in delivery (quarry is 3.5 hrs away) and the savings are long gone.

I don't mind the look of it straight on but because of the different thicknesses there is too much shadow for me. Also I can't work it with anything other than a grinder so I basically don't work it at all and just install it as I get it, but they like it so Hey
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I don't mind installing the stuff depending on the style when i install over concrete I always use thinset only and grout separately this way I know it adheres well do quite a bit of work with thin natural if it is a mosaic stone you will do we'll chipping at it if its a ledge it's more difficult
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This install is on ICF. Diamond lath attached with screws and washers, parged, and scratched. I'm using a rich mortar with lots of bonding agent. I'm also doing another job, a fireplace with arriscraft cut thin over cement board and I'm using thinset for that
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This is the natural right? What I do to trim natural stone veneer is score the back of the stone with the grinder, then break it off. Cant see the saw mark that way.
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that's what I've been doing too. But it cuts slow and i much prefer using a hammer and chisel. i find it quicker and easier. Cutting to length isn't the main issue I have. It's that the stone isn't rocked at all and more than 1/2 the stones are concave rather than convex making a lot of shadows. Oh well, it's not on my house
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Forgot I said i would post up pics until I was looking through photobucket

Natural thin sandstone.

I originally wasn't supposed to do this job and the owner was acting as contractor and ordered the material. He only measure 2 of 3 sides so he was almost 1/3 short on materials. Still not sure when they are coming in



Like i said, not a huge fan of all the shadow, but some stones are barely 3/8" thick and others are 1 1/2"
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And this is the fireplace made of thin cut Arriscraft. This actually took a lot longer to do per sqft because it was inside and since all the cuts needed to be square and straight and joints needed to be consistent they were all done with a grinder outside. Add in the fact that there was very little area that didn't need a cut (the cabinets were NOT installed when i gave the original quote so that changed things quite a bit including the price)



I did more than 2x as many sqft in a day doing the full bed stuff exterior as i did doing the interior. And people think thinstone is cheaper??? Not for me it isn't


Plus my corners on the full bed stuff is a lot nicer (in my opinion) than the corners the factory made for us with the thin stuff
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Nice work. I see you get the TV over the fireplace too

The sandstone looks similar to some that we get here from Arizona.
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