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Old 02-06-2015, 05:51 PM   #1
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I have a fairly new 170/210k heater. Worked great until now. Blows smoke all over until I take the cover off, then it works great.

Im about ready to smash it with a sledge. Ive cleaned everything I can think of, the fuel pressure is fine. Its always when you need it the most.

No one anywhere has any heaters for sale.

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I have another one to use, but it burns your eyes a bit, so ill have to use propane during the day.



The good news is I get to plow snow for 3 days in a row.
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Old 02-06-2015, 06:19 PM   #2
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I have a fairly new 170/210k heater. Worked great until now. Blows smoke all over until I take the cover off, then it works great.

Im about ready to smash it with a sledge. Ive cleaned everything I can think of, the fuel pressure is fine. Its always when you need it the most.

No one anywhere has any heaters for sale.

Rant over.

I have another one to use, but it burns your eyes a bit, so ill have to use propane during the day.



The good news is I get to plow snow for 3 days in a row.
Domas can tell you what's wrong .. Sounds like the air intake .

Is it a multi fuel heater ? What are you running?

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Old 02-06-2015, 06:21 PM   #3
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It's a dynamic pro kero heater. I'm running kero.
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Maybe the wick is f'ked up...if indeed it has a wick
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Nope no wick lol
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What type of igniter does it have ?
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Sounds like a clogged air filter. Try just removing the filter(s).
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What type of igniter does it have ?
A forked type of sparkug.
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A forked type of sparkug.



Just AWAG, put in a new one.
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I'll try to clean it tomorrow. It starts great without the cover on thou
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try the air hose trick
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What is the air hose trick?
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It's a lack of air. you need a NEW air filter not just cleaned. There's that paper filter that has carbon or something in it, that needs to be replaced. I can only find them on Amazon. What i do in that situation is to put the lid back on but only 2 or 4 screws towards the front and wedge something in the back so air can be sucked in directly, hopefully it works until you can get a new filter. Order 4 at a time

So long as the front is fully covered foreward of the fan there is no more risk of fire than if the whole thing is covered
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I ordered the filters. The paper one is black , completely. I tried to run it without the paper filter and it didn't improve it.
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http://www.reddyparts.com/sp_tips.htm

This site helped me figure out what my heater problem was.

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I ordered the filters. The paper one is black , completely. I tried to run it without the paper filter and it didn't improve it.
Yeah i've tried that too, doesn't work, I think it needs some resistance to draw or soemthing
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I have a fairly new 170/210k heater. Worked great until now. Blows smoke all over until I take the cover off, then it works great.

Im about ready to smash it with a sledge. Ive cleaned everything I can think of, the fuel pressure is fine. Its always when you need it the most.

No one anywhere has any heaters for sale.

Rant over.

I have another one to use, but it burns your eyes a bit, so ill have to use propane during the day.



The good news is I get to plow snow for 3 days in a row.
lol I have the same sized heater same problem [internals are all the same basically] at first it would run fine but run out before it was empty.....i found the fuel pick up tube hose too long so it curled upward in the tank bottom.
I had much down time as they are very temperamental. Ive bought pump blades;the pressure gauge; all the filters;nozzle etc etc..and each time I got it running but slowly it regressed to needing the cover slid forward a bit and now wants it off!
I noticed the plastic along the heat chamber getting hot...I took the chamber off and the metal supports were giving out allowing it to settle towards the tank top. I put in strap supports and it helped but I think the chamber is terribly under gauged!

Other fixes were the air and fuel tubes flare at the fittings ie nozzle and filter and pump. The nozzle spins with air flow and has spiral grooves which get filled and the spin is easily stopped or slowed with either dirt or faltered air flow. I take the nozzle apart and clean them and do all the filters but it still demands the cover removed....has to be the chamber air flow. Just a hunch as yours is new look at the end of the fuel tube in the tank...make sure it's not curled and be sure they cut it in a point ie 45 degree cut from it center. it wont get clogged by bottoming that way. I actually replace all those **** hoses and used ideal clamps because they leak after a while. B careful with the igniter,just looking at it will fracture it and its expensive like a gas dryer igniter! Funny though the replacement is a lot more durable!

Talk about no heat I've been plowing without it. Damned duramax has a head gasket problem that results in over pressurized coolant and air pockets in the heater core. I put in blue devil last spring [5000$job] and it worked great but now the core is clogging! Put in 2 by bass tees and air blew it and water hose blew it both directions. It works for a while three times then it goes cold.This morn I'm putting in bar's and pumping it for an hour both directions. I thought I was done with the no heat **** and scraping ice off the inside windows...I used to have a 36 horse vw that did the same thing, but we piled in anyway!
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All new filters and it wont run with the cover fully on. Runs amazing with little shims in the back though.
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All new filters and it wont run with the cover fully on. Runs amazing with little shims in the back though.
Hmm. You're sure you have the right pressure? You're running kero? Can you switch yours between 170 btu and 200? if so does it work on one but not the other? It's been bitterly cold here lately, maybe the fuel is just too thick without more air?

Definitely sounds like an air flow problem...I'm really surprised the new filter didn't fix it.

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