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Old 07-19-2019, 07:23 AM   #21
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I don't know too much about California and it's tax system, but I would have thought that with the earthquakes more houses would be constructed from timber rather than masonry.
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I don't know too much about California and it's tax system, but I would have thought that with the earthquakes more houses would be constructed from timber rather than masonry.


There's an enormous amount of masonry all around homes here for asthethics.


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There's an enormous amount of masonry all around homes here for asthethics.


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That's interesting. How does brickwork stand up to an earthquake, or it reinforced enough to take it?
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That's interesting. How does brickwork stand up to an earthquake, or it reinforced enough to take it?


Earthquake just don't cause that much of a concern when it comes to masonry just for asthethics. I've been here 53 years and only seen one Chimney give away. This area anyway.


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Calidecks:Love to hear how the end of state income tax deductibility has affected your bottom line...

Gross income - Total taxes and all mandated by law spending, =post Tax income....

Blue rocks: so Not California or a Commie Nation, that leaves 49 states/48 if you don't think Vermont/Bernie Sanders is the answer...

You want a high income/ Low tax State, IMHO

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Calidecks:Love to hear how the end of state income tax deductibility has affected your bottom line...



Gross income - Total taxes and all mandated by law spending, =post Tax income....



Blue rocks: so Not California or a Commie Nation, that leaves 49 states/48 if you don't think Vermont/Bernie Sanders is the answer...



You want a high income/ Low tax State, IMHO



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The income tax can be deducted for up to 10k. Our loss is minimal if anything.

My home is not reacessed ever. It stays the same price as when we bought it. For 210k. It doesn't fall into the category where the deductibility effects us. It's for homes 750k and above.

Beginning in tax year 2018, couples filing jointly can deduct the interest on up to $750,000 of qualified residence loans. Couples filing separately can deduct can deduct interest on up to $375,000 of qualified debt.

Median home price in Cali is 547k


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Again the money I make in the winter is way more than I lose in taxes. By a lot, compared to other places that are too cold to work in the winter on decks.


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Property looks good value to me for what you get there Mike. My daughter has just paid 175 grand for an old 2 up 2 down row house. I will have to repoint the back as well, as it's soft stone wrecked by sand/cement pointing.
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Come to southern Vermont, there is a shortage of good quality masons with talent.
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Depends on your forte but there is definitely a systemic lack of good masons in the coastal New England area where folks are still very much in love with dry fit walls, blue stone patios, ledgestone details, etc. I think you could find a job very easily but folks up here are really slow to trust a new business so the builders doing the high end homes with all the stone are going to take a while to develop if you want to hang out your own shingle right away.
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That's interesting. How does brickwork stand up to an earthquake, or it reinforced enough to take it?
Everything is built with 8" blocks, steel, bond beams.
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Come to southern Vermont, there is a shortage of good quality masons with talent.
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As the standard deduction has been increased to 12K$ for single filers,

the SALT including your Real estate taxes is limited to 10 K$ and requires a schedule A list of deductions.

As an ever greater fraction of State and local taxes are excluded from being claimed as deductions from nation income taxes, High tax State voters will stop exporting their excessive local &State level government spending to the more frugal states & cities of the Union,

hopefully DT will completely slam the door on exporting local and state taxes to more rationally governed areas of the Union.

California is welcome to go socialist: just don't keep exporting the Tax bills to freer States.

Most Snow bird contractors have winter enterprises, some that don't exist in snow free Zones, but there are few rain days in a desert clime.

It rarely snows in Cuba, or Venezuela either, the Commies will let the serfs work year around and still they get to keep nothing....

All other things being equal lower tax/Smaller government States/cities will have MORE customers that can afford to purchase luxury items like decks, thus more room for growth in sales & income.

Can ANY of your employees/sub contractors afford your work products?

I hope you are keeping your retirement funds outside the reach of the State and local governments as they get ever more desperate to fund all the pension funds and bond payments coming due in the next few decades.
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Can ANY of your employees/sub contractors afford your work products?

Absolutely there's plenty if not all my subs live very comfortably. And could easily afford my work product. My plumber lives in a 8000 s.f. Home. I could afford theirs as well. And I have. There's plenty of employees in every state that aren't quite there yet. Although my lead owns a brand new home. It's in Eastvale, but I think he paid just over 400k for it. It's nice too.

Are you really going to try to tell me what it is in my own backyard? You aren't qualified to do that.



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It rarely snows in Cuba, or Venezuela either, the Commies will let the serfs work year around and still they get to keep nothing....

This is Orange County. There's probably more money in this county then your whole state. Lol!


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I hope you are keeping your retirement funds outside the reach of the State and local governments as they get ever more desperate to fund all the pension funds and bond payments coming due in the next few decades.


My wife's pension is insured. My retirement is in mutual funds. She's also got insurance for her salary. Not to mention, we are only about 3 years away from her getting her pension if she so chooses.

Don't worry or try to tell me what time it is, I'm fully aware of my wheelhouse.


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From my viewpoint, most normal Californians are( like the proverbial frog in the slowly warming Pot as temperature rises, )not noticing the degraded freedom and ever smaller Net incomes.

the Czars were really wealthy too in 1916, not so much 1920....

Re: Orange county, IMO, it is time to get in the lifeboats before the government sells them to make a bond payment, The band IS playing on the deck of the SS California/Titanic.

The extreme lack of middle class affordable housing is just one of many symptoms of a failed governments at all levels.

I hope I'm am wrong and California returns to being a Capitalist friendly land and deports all the Alien invaders there quickly when it returns to " A Rule of Law"

But the reduction of SALT deduct-ability on federal income Taxes will make the Net income advantage of low tax States more obvious to all levels of intellect.

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From my viewpoint, most normal Californians are( like the proverbial frog in the slowly warming Pot as temperature rises, )not noticing the degraded freedom and every smaller Net incomes.



the Czars were really wealthy too in 1916, not so much 1920....



Re: Orange county, IMO, it is time to get in the lifeboats before the government sells them to make a bond payment, The band IS playing on the deck of the SS California/Titanic.



The extreme lack of middle class affordable housing is just one of many symptoms of a failed governments at all levels.



I hope I'm am wrong and California returns to being a Capitalist friendly land and deports all the Alien invaders there quickly when it returns to " A Rule of Law"



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What you don't understand is even if all that happens I'm going to be just fine. I can sell here which we plan on doing soon and buy a home in Idaho and still have 600k left over from this home. In fact, I can move to a lot of states and live phat. Not just from my retirement but from my assets.


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So you are aware California has serious issues and PLAN on leaving to live "Phat" somewhere else where the laws are fairer....

Smart, like a Tory after the USA won the First American Civil War of Revolution.

I rather Californians FIXED their problems, returned to pulling their fair share of the Nation's taxes....

Thank God other States have not all followed California and NY state down the road to a near socialist state of misery, leaving room for refugees from the messes of left wing democratic Party disasters.

Love to see how many % wise of the upper middle and lower upper classes plan to leave Cali pre/ post retirement.
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I don't care what you'd rather I do. I pay plenty of taxes. And yes I plan on moving to another state to live phat! There's no reason what so ever to believe anyone in Cali doesn't pay their fair share of taxes. Federal taxes are the same for everyone matters none what state you're from.

Last I heard this is still America I can live wherever the **** I want. But thanks for being concerned.


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