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Old 05-20-2019, 05:17 PM   #1
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We are replacing a toilet on a job. The toilet was tiled in place. The plumber broke it out and I need to bring the space up level with existing tile so they can glue in new flange and fasten it to the floor. Itís about 1 1/4Ē deep. Whatís a safe product to use for doing this? Iím more worried about screwing tapcons into the floor for the flange when they attach it. There is concrete underneath. Thanks, Nick.
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I would go with CementAll.

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It sounds like he's redoing it, not stacking spacers, etc.
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It sounds like he's redoing it, not stacking spacers, etc.


Ah,you may be correct,was not exactly sure from the description.
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It is new plumbing but there is the footprint of the old 5 gallon flush toilet that needs to be brought up level with existing floor. It wonít look pretty but it will work. Those are the qualifications.
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If it is new plumbing,the flange gets set on TOP of the tile,not sub floor.
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If it is new plumbing,the flange gets set on TOP of the tile,not sub floor.
Ok, but what product would you suggest to fill that toilet-shaped footprint of 1 1/4" depth?
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I would brush on a bonding agent and fill in the footprint (if it is contained on all edges) with a product like this or similar.

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The product I use to fill this is going to be the finished floor. Client dictated quality of fix. Tile is from the 30ís.
I donít have a better pic. Most of the time the toilet didnít work at all so this is still an improvement.
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Get a sheet of Hardie backer, use a diamond blade on a grinder to cut and shape the backer to fit. Mix up some rapid set mortar, use a 1/4" notch trowel to burn in and tooth the backer, burn in the floor set/work in the first piece, trowel the back of the second piece, burn in the first piece, set second piece. Using a 1/4 x 1/4 trowel should give you 1/8 between each layer for a total of 1-1/4".

To burn in, is to apply a thin tight coat of mortar with the smooth side of the trowel to the substrate.

It is easier to tooth the backer piece than try to tooth the mortar on the floor in such a tight area.

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Make a template, cut Saltillo tile and set in a thick bed of mortar.
Grout with the same mortar. Use a repair flange that has a rubber ring that tightens up in the inside of existing flange and your ready for a new toilet.


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Rapid set with fiber and bond coat...I'm done in under 5min.
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Rapid set with fiber and bond coat...I'm done in under 5min.
It will take you longer than 5 minutes to get to this job

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It will take you longer than 5 minutes to get to this job



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Tell the homeowners to do this"

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Add some oxide pigment too and blend that sucker in...better add another minute to that 5 however
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Add some oxide pigment too and blend that sucker in...better add another minute to that 5 however
That's the time allowed for bending over...
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That's the time allowed for bending over...
If the jobs in San Francisco add another 5 to check around before bending over.

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