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Old 02-16-2020, 10:09 PM   #1
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Deciding To Become A Brick And Block Layer - Advice


Hey guys,

deciding to become a bricklayer or 'brickie' as we call them in australia

Any advice? So far I know I will be sore as hell, but eventually, aim on working in the management of new builds anyway. So while I'm young (25) might as well get at least 5-10 years worth of time under my belt.

I've got the degree and the diploma in construction management so all the study apart from the bricklaying technical study is done and dusted (thanks to my mother) - and I can work fulltime now (was part time labourer before for a GC).

So keen on this, it leads to being a GC in my state which is my goal.

Any tips on how to make it easier and what to look out for? Whats going to happen? How to avoid silicosis?

thanks again - also some of you have recommended being a project manager instead - what do you guys think about this?
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Old 02-16-2020, 10:30 PM   #2
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out here you would start as a hoddy...

if the mason's think you are worth a dam they will keep you around and see if you are willing to learn the trade...

stay in shape, drink lots of water during the day, wear gloves, don't complain & keep showing up to work...

and do not EVER mention you have an education...

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out here you would start as a hoddy...

if the mason's think you are worth a dam they will keep you around and see if you are willing to learn the trade...

stay in shape, drink lots of water during the day, wear gloves, don't complain & keep showing up to work...

and do not EVER mention you have an education...
Why not mention I have an education though? thanks for your help
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Why not mention I have an education though? thanks for your help
does not go over well with old journeymen.

they will think you look down on them and they will razz the bejeezus out of you.

you will need extremely thick & heavily calloused skin....

even if you don't mention the education.

on the job is not the place to bring it up.

in the office at the right time maybe ok...
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does not go over well with old journeymen.

they will think you look down on them and they will razz the bejeezus out of you.

you will need extremely thick & heavily calloused skin....

even if you don't mention the education.

on the job is not the place to bring it up.

in the office at the right time maybe ok...
alright thanks, my dad gave me the same advice

Do I need to be extremely tough and rough around the edges? Im a big/built guy, but I'm kind of quiet.
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alright thanks, my dad gave me the same advice

Do I need to be extremely tough and rough around the edges? Im a big/built guy, but I'm kind of quiet.
do not try and be something you are not.

when someone on the job flips you some chit just laugh and flip a little something back.

with your size some dick wad will try and get your goat & push you.

just something you will have to learn to deal with.

BUT....EVERYONE WILL BE WATCHING...
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do not try and be something you are not.

when someone on the job flips you some chit just laugh and flip a little something back.

with your size some dick wad will try and get your goat & push you.

just something you will have to learn to deal with.

BUT....EVERYONE WILL BE WATCHING...
haha thanks for the heads up! I will keep this in mind
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do not try and be something you are not.

when someone on the job flips you some chit just laugh and flip a little something back.

with your size some dick wad will try and get your goat & push you.

just something you will have to learn to deal with.

BUT....EVERYONE WILL BE WATCHING...
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haha thanks for the heads up! I will keep this in mind

Just to add some personal perspective...

i was 6'-5", 230 pounds, when i first rolled up on a job site...

there were some challenging times, but being young, dumb & invincible i managed to endure...

use your size & hopefully easy going demeanor to your advantage.

when i was running crews in sacrameneto i drove a 1 ton toyota pu for commuting....

i was told i looked like a grizzly bear on a roller skate...

i also acquired the nick name "wild thing"...

i'll leave that to your imagination...

i also acquired the nick name of wild thing
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Hey guys,

deciding to become a bricklayer or 'brickie' as we call them in australia

Any advice?
Be the best brickie the world has ever seen!


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Any tips on how to make it easier and what to look out for
Get an office job as an assistant project manager.


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Whats going to happen?
Only God knows. But you are going to work very physically hard and deal with your coworkers (good and bad).

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How to avoid silicosis?
Wear the proper dust mask/respirator.

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thanks again - also some of you have recommended being a project manager instead - what do you guys think about this?
I think it is a good idea. Start as an Assistant PM and be mentored by a good PM. You do not need to know how to lay brick to be a builder/GC. I don't...

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I think it's good for any manager to have a few years of hands on trades experience as it really helps you understand things. Many of the guys we hired straight out of college were required to first spend a year or two in the field before we brought them in the office to project manage or estimate.

Don't get too dug into the trade thing. It would be pretty foolish for a guy that has invested in a degree to spend more than a few years in the field. You should be looking to fast track into management of a masonry firm.
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I started off as a mason tender it wasn't easy but, i showed up everyday on time with a open mind and a strong back eventually, i learned the trade.... Now a days i run my own business.

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