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Old 10-16-2019, 07:43 AM   #21
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I don't think this crack has anything to do with stone installation, more likely the cause for that crack is framing or foundation movement.
yup.
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Are the cracks primarily at corners and/or near window/door openings?

I did a bunch of condos with lik & stik.

Got cracks at corners as described above.

Also all entries had at least 1 column with the bottom half covered in lik & stik, and these supported overhangs and rested on concrete entry slab. Approx 1/2 of those had cracks on corners.

The install was good. The new buildings were done in fall and winter and continued to shift/settle through spring.

Stone doesn't bend well - even fake chit. However, the fake chit is also brittle and weak, and a crack will telegraph right on up a line once it has gotten a good start.
The cracks are only at the wood capped corners.
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Did you OVER LAP the stucco wire mesh at the corners?

Next rain, get a moisture tester, test wall cavities and sill plate behind Faux Rock......

Dry out a corner and see if you can "push" it back?

If you had a few boxes of the Faux scat left you 'Could' dig out the same shapes and repair the corners.... If the crack problem is fixed.

You might have to cut a C.J. in the corners as a cost appropriate "solution" for a shacked up home.....

Cracked foundation homes DON'T qualify for any type of FHA Mortgage.... Take a lot of customers out of consideration.
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Did you OVER LAP the stucco wire mesh at the corners?

Next rain, get a moisture tester, test wall cavities and sill plate behind Faux Rock......

Dry out a corner and see if you can "push" it back?

If you had a few boxes of the Faux scat left you 'Could' dig out the same shapes and repair the corners.... If the crack problem is fixed.

You might have to cut a C.J. in the corners as a cost appropriate "solution" for a shacked up home.....

Cracked foundation homes DON'T qualify for any type of FHA Mortgage.... Take a lot of customers out of consideration.
Yes, corners always overlapped.
It's just one big blame game until an inspector is hired to assess the situation.
Hopefully that happens soon.
To me it seems the fix for this situation would be to get the proper metal cap or full masonry cap to replace the existing wood one and replace the cracked pieces with new ones.
But who knows.... if its foundation crack it could be much more extensive of a repair.
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Yes, corners always overlapped.
It's just one big blame game until an inspector is hired to assess the situation.
Hopefully that happens soon.
To me it seems the fix for this situation would be to get the proper metal cap or full masonry cap to replace the existing wood one and replace the cracked pieces with new ones.
But who knows.... if its foundation crack it could be much more extensive of a repair.
You are the one that installed the mesh (and I assume) the felt paper under that. So, what did you install it onto? OSB nailed over some stick framing?

Because that would be a typical install, and more likely the issue rather than the (obviously failed) cap. That said, and in either case, doesn't seem likely to have anything to do with the installation.
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You are the one that installed the mesh (and I assume) the felt paper under that. So, what did you install it onto? OSB nailed over some stick framing?

Because that would be a typical install, and more likely the issue rather than the (obviously failed) cap. That said, and in either case, doesn't seem likely to have anything to do with the installation.
Yea it is OSB nailed to stick framing that sit on top of a 12 foot high foundation wall.
The veneer stone covers from the bottom of foundation to the top on the stick framed wall all the way up.

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