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Old 06-03-2012, 11:09 PM   #21
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Re: Van Vs Pickup Vs Box Truck....so Many Options


Push comes to shove, the most economical yet versatile setup for your situation is going to be a van with a trailer for material hauling.

A box truck will eat you alive fuel-wise, and be difficult to park in many cases.
A pickup truck has the tool-carrying/passenger disadvantages already noted.

But one thing you need to get resolved sooner than later is the idea of carting family around in your work vehicle. I completely understand that; I have the t-shirt. But it just doesn't work in the long run.
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Old 06-03-2012, 11:29 PM   #22
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But the way Five Star did it is the only true correct way. It is done correctly and meets all the safety requirements. I like it. It is consistent with that which we all should strive.
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At the end of the day its my kid in that seat ! So even if I did spend a few more bucks ,its more about piece of mind ! And I have no time climbing or driving to stop at every junk yard , I called the place that outfitted my truck 6 yrs ago , I ordered the seat , I came back a week later on a slow day and had it installed in 1.5 hrs I was out the door back on the road! Worth every penny
It's your money to spend and your piece of mind you need to satisfy. I sincerely respect that.

I think it's rather bold of both of you to insinuate that ONLY a dealer installed option is "safe" or "meets all safety standards".

I wasn't talking hack work.

There are very reputable outfits that install aftermarket setups which are equal to or exceed your "dealer safety standards" and some I'll bet for probably less money. It's done in racing and car restoration all the time.

In fact, my brother in law had it done in his van for his daughter.

Its your right and privilege to believe any way you want - even if it is misinformed.

But please don't chastise me insinuating that I'm the "hack" here for suggesting an alternative. I'm anything but that....
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It's your money to spend and your piece of mind you need to satisfy. I sincerely respect that.

I think it's rather bold of both of you to insinuate that ONLY a dealer installed option is "safe" or "meets all safety standards".

I wasn't talking hack work.

There are very reputable outfits that install aftermarket setups which are equal to or exceed your "dealer safety standards" and some I'll bet for probably less money. It's done in racing and car restoration all the time.

In fact, my brother in law had it done in his van for his daughter.

Its your right and privilege to believe any way you want - even if it is misinformed.

But please don't chastise me insinuating that I'm the "hack" here for suggesting an alternative. I'm anything but that....
Had you suggested a reputable aftermarket firm to install a DOT approved auxiliary seat, that would have been one thing. But you suggested a seat salvaged from a wrecking yard. Not quite the same thing.
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Old 06-04-2012, 01:21 AM   #24
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Had you suggested a reputable aftermarket firm to install a DOT approved auxiliary seat, that would have been one thing. But you suggested a seat salvaged from a wrecking yard. Not quite the same thing.
I've pondered a number of responses to you.

I sincerely strive to be kind and gracious in how I respond to people. Unfortunately, I am not always successful. I don't want tonight to be one of those times.

Perhaps I am misreading the tone you are writing in. If so, I apologize in advance.

Tonight, (what I perceive to be) your nit picky responses are causing my sin nature to keep rearing its ugly head in me. I don't want to be known for that.

So I'm just going to graciously bow out for this session.

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Great idea . I am considering a sprinter and was worried about the seating for my two kids (although I rarely pick them up in my vehicle). I have a crew cab pick up that I plan on keeping anyway but the third seat would be awesome in the sprinter. Now.....if we could only see how you outfitted the cargo area
It's not always so neat but this was after a dumpster donation a few weeks ago

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I've pondered a number of responses to you.

I sincerely strive to be kind and gracious in how I respond to people. Unfortunately, I am not always successful. I don't want tonight to be one of those times.

Perhaps I am misreading the tone you are writing in. If so, I apologize in advance.

Tonight, (what I perceive to be) your nit picky responses are causing my sin nature to keep rearing its ugly head in me. I don't want to be known for that.

So I'm just going to graciously bow out for this session.

Best wishes -
No problem. In this particular case (a Sprinter), I was just thinking (without actually saying) that it is very unlikely that anyone produces an acceptable "jump seat" for such a limited production vehicle. While going the route he went may not have been the "only" possible solution, it was certainly the only reasonable solution when one considers the time involved and the importance (to Five Star) of assuring an installation suitable to transport the most precious cargo there is. There are a number of aftermarket products for pickups and vans. For a Sprinter, not so much.

Also, my experience has been that on vehicles perceived to be "very" commercial, one has to take special care with modifications. For example, when I add a 3/4 or 1 ton cargo van or pickup to my commercial vehicle policy, I just give my agent the VIN and I get an invoice. When I added my 1 ton cutaway (and F450 flatbed, F550 bucket truck and Freightliner FL60) they wanted pictures...and later wanted to "document" the vehicle. So an adjuster comes out and takes a number of pictures. In my case (on the cutaway), he had an issue with the aftermarket "west coast" rear view mirrors on it. After some discussion that there was no evidence that anything had been modified and that the mirrors were likely installed by either the dealer or the Morgan body people, he let it go. I was also told that I should have the Morgan body people perform the trailer hitch mods that I wanted to do as it would require cutting and welding on the Morgan parts. I did have Morgan make the mods and submitted the documentation to my agent to forward to their underwriter.
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Ok, well after some discussion with the wife, and what I need I think this is where I am at. I had a break in, in a vacant rental, to scrap it. The best is they didn't take it all, just bits and pieces of it all, so instead of re-threading brass, and cutting and threading all day, I just pulled it all and running a new PEX system. And Since my pick up isn't secure, and the house is sketchy...I have been loading EVERYTHING in and out everyday.
I think I am going to sell a motorcycle i NEVER ride, and look for a 3/4 ton Van. If possible a diesel, since I've always had them, and can get pretty decent mpg. I can load that up with every misc part I need, so it is all there when I need it. And Locked up when I don't.

As for the kid hauler, I am in good shape right now, since I can hold the one in the back, when we have a second I will certainly need the full back seat. So I will keep my current truck till i need one, then buy a mid size crew cab, probably a tacoma. Since I won't need it for work, It will just be the DD, Kid hauler, Home Depot for a few bags of multch truck, and running estimates. So I will still have a little bed, 4 seats, and I won't kill it since It wont be the work truck.

What sold me, Is a buddy, who has a 350 Extended Van, LOADED, in organized bins, and has a little bit of everything. He is the fix everything from a broken lamp, to a this or that. Its great having all the parts you can ever want, and that's what I need.

I was looking into the trailer set up, and I really like it, but I'm in NYC, and its tough enough to get my truck a spot at a job, let alone my truck and a trailer. And I couldn't leave it there if I wanted to. So defeated the purpose.

So Looks like a work van is in my future. Looking for a ford with a 7.3 Diesel. If not, I have found loads of decent vans, with <150K for a great price. A weekend to load it up...and I'll be good to go.
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I feel your pain. We have a 12' box truck and a pickup with a trailer. I don't do much kid carting because mine are not even in school yet. I know as they get older I will have to be prepared for that.

As for working I love the box truck!!! You can't beat it. I am prepared for anything. I have my break setup on one side. If I just need to bend metal for a door, window, or a piece of flashing, I do it right in the truck. No lugging it around. On larger jobs we pull it out.

The trailer is a pain to drive around with. But then on larger jobs you can just leave it for the length of the job onsite. If its lettered then it's also like having a huge sign on the job. If you are in 4 different places a week then it will get old real quick. Like they say " the grass is always greener" Good luck!
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I feel your pain. We have a 12' box truck and a pickup with a trailer. I don't do much kid carting because mine are not even in school yet. I know as they get older I will have to be prepared for that.

As for working I love the box truck!!! You can't beat it. I am prepared for anything. I have my break setup on one side. If I just need to bend metal for a door, window, or a piece of flashing, I do it right in the truck. No lugging it around. On larger jobs we pull it out.

The trailer is a pain to drive around with. But then on larger jobs you can just leave it for the length of the job onsite. If its lettered then it's also like having a huge sign on the job. If you are in 4 different places a week then it will get old real quick. Like they say " the grass is always greener" Good luck!
agreed. as long as parking is not a problem, a box truck cannot be beat.
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When all is said and done, you have to have a truck that works for you and not the other way around. I personally have a work truck that has been perfect for me but is not what most consider a "real" work truck.
If you need to tow, then I would not suggest a sprinter. Even on the 3500 series, the tow capacity is only 5000#. That is very anemic. If you need to get a skidsteer to the jobsite, fugettaboutit, you have already well exceeded that number. Also, with the jump seat you need a well designed crash cage. It won't matter if the seat belt holds your kid in place if a tool flies into him/her.

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