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Old 08-15-2014, 02:30 PM   #101
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Being organized can make you so much more money. It is worth it. Its also worth spending the money that it takes to get organized.

I dropped almost a grand on veto bags last month. Worth every penny.
I need Spencer to come build my shelves in my van for me, been putting it off for months.

Although I wanna get a crew cab pickup so I can go down to a single vehicle and use it for business and family use, just hard to part with the great milage on my diesel jetta.
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Old 08-15-2014, 02:36 PM   #102
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I need Spencer to come build my shelves in my van for me, been putting it off for months.

Although I wanna get a crew cab pickup so I can go down to a single vehicle and use it for business and family use, just hard to part with the great milage on my diesel jetta.
That can be arranged....$$$$$
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Being organized can make you so much more money. It is worth it. Its also worth spending the money that it takes to get organized.

I dropped almost a grand on veto bags last month. Worth every penny.
Spencer, what's you thought on Veto's vs a bucket organizer?
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I've never had a problem with anything falling off the way I have it.

Biggest problems are my guide rails. They come down if I forget to put that bungee on.

Also my drawers. The glides have been beat to death from times when I forget to latch them and go around the corner. They need replaced and I need to come up with something that latches automatically when I shut the drawer.
I think the best shelving is wood, custom built and not noisy like metal. I'm trading in my baby after 15 years E150 for a 2013 E250 but I'm keeping my shelves I built. It almost feels like I'm putting a dog down.

Are your drawer slides the type that somewhat lock when closed?
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Spencer, what's you thought on Veto's vs a bucket organizer?
My biggest problem with a bucket organizer is that they are not very stable. Easy to knock over.

I personally never used one for anything other than screws.

I always used an irwin organizer. It worked great but couldn't handle the weight of what I put in it.

The vetos are great. I like them. There is no perfect system. I like the durability of the veto. I know it is going to last a very long time.

If anything I wish the xxl veto was a little bit wider and not as long. Especially in my plumbing bag. I have to use the small cans of pvc glue because nothing bigger will fit.
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I think the best shelving is wood, custom built and not noisy like metal. I'm trading in my baby after 15 years E150 for a 2013 E250 but I'm keeping my shelves I built. It almost feels like I'm putting a dog down.

Are your drawer slides the type that somewhat lock when closed?
I just have the regular ball bearing slides.

I'll tell ya what. Cudos for making the E150 work. I have the E350 and i've got it squatin like its over loaded. I know the weight of my shelves alone is quite a bit.
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I just have the regular ball bearing slides.

I'll tell ya what. Cudos for making the E150 work. I have the E350 and i've got it squatin like its over loaded. I know the weight of my shelves alone is quite a bit.

My 150 did everything I asked it to do. once I went to pick up tile, when I got there it occurred to me that the tile was commercial grade, quite a bit thicker. I'm surprised I didn't break anything and had to shift everything up towards my bulkhead. It was about 3,000 lbs. My shelving isn't that heavy but my ladder rack is 200 lbs. And I don't keep many of my heavier tools loaded in it.

I took really good care of it but I got tired of keeping up with the rust. I found out last week that the floorboard rusted all the way around the body to chassis bolt. Yesterday my downpipe broke had to fix that because I'm trading it in.
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Spencer, what's you thought on Veto's vs a bucket organizer?
I've had the xxl open top, xxl closed top and the xl closed top.

The xl closed top is by far the one that stays the most organized because theres not really any room to toss something into. At most you'll put a tool in a slot in which it doesn't "belong".

I use the xl Closed top for my primary hand tools. 1 side is for "rough", wrenches, metal snips, etc and the other side is for "finish", scribes, angle finder, miter clamps, combo squares, etc…

If you end up buying one check out how many actual pockets there are compared to others. One of the reasons the xl works better while being smaller is that it has more pockets.
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Solves the crawling into the back deal.

Hard to say which is better, but I'm happy not to hunch over trying to pull tools out of a van.

My truck is my only vehicle so I can have it loaded with tools during the week. Throw the dirtbike on a hitch mount on the weekends. More comfortable, and 4 wheel drive for the occasional snowfall.

Whatever work for you, everybody has different needs. My truck isn't a perfect set-up, but at the same time there isn't one.
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I spent 8 years working out of a company van. First 2008 Chevy 2500 then 2010 Ford E250.
Chev hands down was the better to work out of.

That said when I decided it was time to go back out on my own, I was in need for a new family rig as well as work rig.
I opted for a 2013 ext cab 6.5 box 4x4 with cap and Yakima roof rack.
I lasted four months and had to purchase a 7x14 tandem axel trailer. Needed more space.
I love the trailer when it's on site. It has everything I need.
That said it sucks to tow and find parking in city's.
I also have a 2004 chev reg cab with contractor cap and ezcargo roll out bed. Not bad but not great.
Should be adding a 2500 gmc van this week.
I should get some pics of the rigs together some time.
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Solves the crawling into the back deal.

Hard to say which is better, but I'm happy not to hunch over trying to pull tools out of a van.

My truck is my only vehicle so I can have it loaded with tools during the week. Throw the dirtbike on a hitch mount on the weekends. More comfortable, and 4 wheel drive for the occasional snowfall.

Whatever work for you, everybody has different needs. My truck isn't a perfect set-up, but at the same time there isn't one.
I got to work with a trim sub the other week that I had heard of for years but never met. I had always heard really good things about him. In my mind he was a legend. I was stoked to work with him.

I had a certain "expectation" built up in my mind of a guy with really good tools who made lots of money and probably had a sweet ride.

I get on the job. He worked out of a truck similar to yours. Topper. Had all his stuff packed in there. Everything had its place. Most of the tools looked 10-15 years old. He had never heard of festool. But man oh man was his trim work tight. And I think he makes real good money keeping his overhead low.

Point being. Whatever works and makes you money. If you're a specialized sub its a lot easier to work out of truck bed IMO. Less stuff to carry around. And you get the advantage of using a truck for business and personal use.
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I can get my 20' enclosed trailer or 20' equipment trailer just about anywhere. I can even parallel park them.
I could paralell park a 747. I just need afield big enough.
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I spent 8 years working out of a company van. First 2008 Chevy 2500 then 2010 Ford E250.
Chev hands down was the better to work out of.
Why would a Chevy van be better to work out of? I find them to be junk compared to the E series.
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Why would a Chevy van be better to work out of? I find them to be junk compared to the E series.
I prefer the lower floor height, rear door hinge location, more comfortable seats, my chev also had a step bumper that my ford did not ( though that was just an option), fuel mileage was better on the chev small v8 than the ford 4.6, chev felt like it had way mor power than the e250.

Also let it be known I have no brand loyalty. I currently own 2 Chevys and two Fords. I do love Fords and my next truck is looking like a F250.
I just think Chevy vans are best for the money.

My Truck is a 2013 gmc Z71 got a good deal/ like it don't love it.
Wife's daily 2010 chev uplander got a deal and now I know why. Pos
Sunny day car 2002 Mustang vert had for seven years and love it.
AC Cobra replica grocery getter/ scarey fast powered by ford. Love it
So yes I prefer ford just not the 4.6 E250
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I am becoming more and more of a ford fan all the time. I love my 08 E350 with 5.4. To me the 5.4 is the perfect motor size for what I need. The 4.6 would be way underpowered to haul around all the tools/fasteners I carry. I have the 4.6 in my current F-150 truck. Its a pouch that turn anything into a soccer mom commuter vehicle. I hate not having any power.

I'm in the market for a used truck. Been doing research. I think Ford wins for my needs there as well. They make a solid work truck.

Looking to get an F-350 super cab super duty with 6.8l V10 and 8" Bed. Should suit my needs well.
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Ok Spencer
I spent the day organizing. I was supposed to work. But wife spent all day getting a haircut that it just decided to make it a hard day on Sunday as opposed to two medium days (Sat & Sun).

I can now walk around in my trailer. I still have a full buckets full of miscellaneous stuff, but it was getting late so I called it quits.

I have a busy day tomorrow, do well see how I feel after. I hate working on weekends anymore and really hate working Sundays.
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Ok Spencer
I spent the day organizing. I was supposed to work. But wife spent all day getting a haircut that it just decided to make it a hard day on Sunday as opposed to two medium days (Sat & Sun).

I can now walk around in my trailer. I still have a full buckets full of miscellaneous stuff, but it was getting late so I called it quits.

I have a busy day tomorrow, do well see how I feel after. I hate working on weekends anymore and really hate working Sundays.
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I'll take some tomorrow morning. I should've taken some before shots so you could at least see the progress. lol

Will post some tomorrow am

I even put a lot of my electrical tools in one box, along with a 12v Makita impact that I never use. Should get a lot of use now
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Why would a Chevy van be better to work out of? I find them to be junk compared to the E series.
junk? come on.
the e-series hasnt had a major redesign since 1992.
the chevys have great motors and transmissions in them. plus look cooler
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I was pretty suprised when I test drove an e250 with the 4.6. My f150 has the 4.6 with the 4 speed and it get the job done, it just doesn't feel very powerful. In the e250 it felt great though.

I ended up getting an older e250 with the 5.4 though. Next van is definitely gonna be a box van or a sprinter/transit. It would be real nice to be able to stand up. The cargo van sure beats the truck for most of my work though.

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