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Old 10-04-2018, 11:00 AM   #21
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Also, on the truck side - someone is going to have to build a truck that looks like a truck before they'll get a majority of people to buy them. I have to believe it'll be easier to sell an all electric truck that looks like an F-250 before it will be to sell one that looks like a Honda Ridgeline.
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Old 10-04-2018, 12:40 PM   #22
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WTF do you care?
I don't, just curious how a contractor puts on that kinda mileage.

Wake up on the wrong side of the floor?
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I live 30 miles from my shop and my projects are around 5 lakes. Often I have to make a huge loop around the big lake to visit jobsite.

When I was the active PM for my projects I put 55-60k a year on the truck. Now probably 25-30k.

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Also, on the truck side - someone is going to have to build a truck that looks like a truck before they'll get a majority of people to buy them. I have to believe it'll be easier to sell an all electric truck that looks like an F-250 before it will be to sell one that looks like a Honda Ridgeline.
I agree, but a few caveats, wind resistance is huge in electric range...and they don't need cooling like a regular truck so no need for a big grill...a big grill that creates wind resistance.
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No disagreement that it's not required for them to work. But a farmer/rancher/mechanic/tradesperson isn't going to buy a pickup that looks like a Prius.


In 20 yrs., maybe.
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There's something to be said for how trains do it. Fossil-fueled electric generators that distribute the electric power. They're like miles-long priuses, in some respect.
I've been thinking about this recently. Dream truck is a diesel generated electric, just like a train. So much power, so little fuel consumption.

I couldn't make an electric work currently, I am working a 21 and 7 rotation 800km from my house. I'm not wasting extra days off charging my vehicle to get around.
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I've been thinking about this recently. Dream truck is a diesel generated electric, just like a train. So much power, so little fuel consumption.

I couldn't make an electric work currently, I am working a 21 and 7 rotation 800km from my house. I'm not wasting extra days off charging my vehicle to get around.
I was thinking the same thing, but it makes less sense for a vehicle. A gas engine is more efficient running the Atkinson cycle, which works great for generating electricity, but not so well for the torque to get a vehicle up to speed. Diesels don't get the same 'bonus' when they generate electricity vs. power a drive train. It it more efficient, yes, but the improvement isn't as significant.

Couple that with the fact diesel engines are vastly more expensive to manufacture...
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The green argument aside, I like the concept of charging at home, never pulling into a gas station. No oil changes. No transmission fluid. Brakes every 200,000 miles.
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That solves a problem I don't have. Great in-town mileage doesn't do anything for highway...
Then dont get an electric vehicle.


Electric cars also make lousy helicopters it turns out. So dont buy one thinking it'd be a great way to view Mt Everest.
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Whoa, brakes every 200,000? Let's take a deep breath here ..
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Whoa, brakes every 200,000? Let's take a deep breath here ..
You should its reality.

http://www.electric-vehiclenews.com/...undant-on.html

"The humble Prius has proved so durable, with regular news of taxi operators surpassing 1 million km (the record stands at 1.5M km), there is even a thread on the priuschat website designated for Prius owners who have passed 299,999 miles (480,000 km).

Not only are most Prius achieving these distances on the original battery pack (dispelling that urban myth) but in many cases they are also still on the original factory fitted set of brake pads!! With a Prius able to use brake regeneration down to 10 km/h, industry standard hydro-mechanical friction brakes move from being a system made up of consumable parts to a durable system that lasts the life of the vehicle.

Typical brake pad life expectancy on an ICE car is between 50-100,000 km with brake rotors needing replacement every 100-200,000 km so the increase in Prius brake life is in the region of 10x."
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I'd be very interested in a pickup that was developed with hybrid in mind, as opposed to the Silverado hybrid that got a whopping 1-2 mpg over the gas. A good v6 would be plenty when coupled with an electric system

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I don't, just curious how a contractor puts on that kinda mileage.
It's Maine. If you can't twiddle your thumbs waiting for a not so special order, you're headed to Massachusetts.

A buddy of mine who does commercial metal frameing for drywall travels to Bangor every day on his current job. He lives in Brunswick.

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Electric cars also make lousy helicopters it turns out. So dont buy one thinking it'd be a great way to view Mt Everest.
So which all electric did you buy?
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My last Chevy truck got 170k on the original brakes. My truck now has 80k with more than half the pads left.


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My last client had a tesla and solar panels for their recharging station.


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I want to buy an electric car and charge it with a gas powered generator!!!!

Actually after watching Elon Musk on Joe Rogan a few weeks ago, I started looking at electric cars a little closer, and it seems like they are getting pretty legit.....

I think in the next 20 years we will see a huge swing towards electric.
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So which all electric did you buy?
Hell, wont work for me either.
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It's Maine. If you can't twiddle your thumbs waiting for a not so special order, you're headed to Massachusetts.

A buddy of mine who does commercial metal frameing for drywall travels to Bangor every day on his current job. He lives in Brunswick.
So, what does that mean in miles per trip ?
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He's driving 260 mi round trip. Massachusetts suppl houses are all over the place. This side of Boston I'm around 230 miles round trip, over 250 for the other side.

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