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Old 06-19-2016, 07:04 AM   #21
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How does the diesel compare vs the gasser on power? I definitely don't want to be driving around a pooch. I was wondering if there is any noticeable power difference from a getup and go perspective.
For the Promaster, the MPG numbers on the diesel are much better than the gas vans. I wish mine had the diesel but for $20k I took what was available.
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Old 06-19-2016, 07:27 AM   #22
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A friend of mine went from a 08 Sprinter to a gas Promaster, his mileage now is 14-16 always hauling a lot of weight and he has a heavy foot. He was getting about 18 with the sprinter.

Everyone talks about the longevity of a diesel but it is the DEF tanks, DEF heaters, DPF filters, NOX sensors, oil cooler lines, turbo seals, EGR valves, high pressure pumps that go bad long before the actual engine.
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A friend of mine went from a 08 Sprinter to a gas Promaster, his mileage now is 14-16 always hauling a lot of weight and he has a heavy foot. He was getting about 18 with the sprinter.

Everyone talks about the longevity of a diesel but it is the DEF tanks, DEF heaters, DPF filters, NOX sensors, oil cooler lines, turbo seals, EGR valves, high pressure pumps that go bad long before the actual engine.
Agreed..but you can still get good money out of a diesel that has 250k on it vs. a gas with 250k..
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Agreed..but you can still get good money out of a diesel that has 250k on it vs. a gas with 250k..
Stupid money.

Everything else still has 250k on it too.
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my dies sprinter goes through some stupid filter almost every year 300 - 1000 bucks every yr.
yes resale is stupid on dies vrs gas.
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At that point I wont care if its stupid or smart..as long as its in my pocket 👍
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I do not think you will find the same resale value on a 250k van vs a 250k pickup, the rest of the van will show a lot more wear.
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I do not think you will find the same resale value on a 250k van vs a 250k pickup, the rest of the van will show a lot more wear.
Oh for sure..Im talking the same van in gas vs diesel
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For the Promaster, the MPG numbers on the diesel are much better than the gas vans. I wish mine had the diesel but for $20k I took what was available.
you got any picks fitted out. If I remember you had a pick up with slider drawers which was pretty nice.
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i was just checking the used market on pro masters there is a boat load 1/year old out there.

Is there any problems with these things? Interesting to see a good amount with less then 15k on them nicely priced.
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i was just checking the used market on pro masters there is a boat load 1/year old out there.

Is there any problems with these things? Interesting to see a good amount with less then 15k on them nicely priced.
Gutter guy on the job site had a brand new one last week. I asked him how he liked it.

He liked it except for one thing. Its front wheel drive. He said all his weight is in the back and for that reason its sketchy driving it back behind a house to get closer to the work. Gets stuck easy due to weight in the rear and front wheel drive.

I assume it would have the same issues in snow.
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The way I see it on the transits, diesel is a no go. Can't recoup the cost and no real benefit in power.

The ecoboost gets good reviews for being every bit as peppy as the diesel if not more.

I'd want the 350 because I usually have to haul scaffolding to and from a new house for ceiling work. There doesn't seem to be much difference between the 250 vs 350. A little more rear suspension capacity and maybe a different tire, but thats about it.

I want extended to be able to carry longer boards. Having the extra space worries me because I'm afraid i'd just fill it up with more shelving and tools than I'd need. Being able to haul built ins, cabinets, or whatever would also be a plus for the extended model.

For a T350 high roof extended it looks like $36,500 and then you could get about $2k in rebates back. But I'd still have to put in a bulkhead and upfit it. Nice that they seem to come with backup cameras. I'd also want an electric start for winter warmup. Don't have a garage to park it in.
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Gutter guy on the job site had a brand new one last week. I asked him how he liked it.



He liked it except for one thing. Its front wheel drive. He said all his weight is in the back and for that reason its sketchy driving it back behind a house to get closer to the work. Gets stuck easy due to weight in the rear and front wheel drive.



I assume it would have the same issues in snow.


You know if he had the 2500 or 3500? When one of my cube vans died that the route I'm going.
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You know if he had the 2500 or 3500? When one of my cube vans died that the route I'm going.


I want to say the 3500 but it wasn't extended. If I remember right he specifically said that if he would have got extended it would have been enough that he would have had to register with DOT.
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I priced mine out for my area at 39k out the door. That with 4100 in rebates

350 high roof extended
Eco boost
Cruise control
Tow package
110 outlet (not needed just included)
Heavy duty alternator( again just included)

As I said before I just found a used one about 2 hrs away in Florida that has all the same features for about 10-12k less.
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I priced mine out for my area at 39k out the door. That with 4100 in rebates

350 high roof extended
Eco boost
Cruise control
Tow package
110 outlet (not needed just included)
Heavy duty alternator( again just included)

As I said before I just found a used one about 2 hrs away in Florida that has all the same features for about 10-12k less.
If you don't mind traveling there are some good deals out there, BUT make sure the vehicle is actually at the dealer. 2017s will be out in Sept, so they want to get rid of the 16s. Check out the transit forum, there are sometimes listings of great deals.

I would like one with dual side doors which is hard to find.
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you got any picks fitted out. If I remember you had a pick up with slider drawers which was pretty nice.
Here are some in process pictures. I'm setting it up to be able to be converted from work van to weekender in less than 20 minutes. The back area holds stacks of systainers over the wheel wells. Those sys cart bases come out and cushions go on to make a seating area with a table in the middle. The seat backs then drop down to make the rear area a bed.

I've got a 12v fridge set up that runs off of 2 deep cycle batteries that charge off of the alternator. I've got a simple hand pump sink and a port-a-potty tucked away underneath. I insulated the walls and ceilings and then covered with ply. I still need to make wall panels and headliner (1/4" ply, batting, vinyl). I added the rubber floor mat - which I highly recommend as nothing slides around anymore. I had a bulkhead but ended up removing it. I like being able to walk to the back without getting out. I'm going to end up making a 3 piece heavy duty fabric partition.

Yesterday I cut a 14" hole in the roof to install a Maxxair ventilation fan. Pretty sweet. It has a thermostat built in and once the van gets too hot, it kicks on to start blowing the hot air out. If it is open and starts raining, it senses the rain and closes automatically. I also got window deflectors so I can leave the front windows cracked open for the vent fan and I don't have to worry about the rain.

I got a portable A/C unit set up and I made an infill piece for the passenger window out of marine ply and cut a hole in it for the A/C to vent. I also added a shore power outlet connection.

I've got a 2000 watt xantrex pure sine wave inverter coming in this week. I'm hoping to be able to run the majority of my power tools from it as some vessels we can't use any saws on (nor on the dock next to the vessel) so I'd like to be able to cut out in the van and go back to the boat versus having to go all the way back to the shop to make a few cuts.
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I want to say the 3500 but it wasn't extended. If I remember right he specifically said that if he would have got extended it would have been enough that he would have had to register with DOT.
Why they are not over 10k lbs? 9350 lbs


The promaster extended is 13'4" to bulkhead and another 39"? to engine housing. The guy I know who has one ( gas ) said its very fast and is thinking about getting another one this week. I did notice that the floor is only about 22" off the ground which I liked
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Here are some in process pictures. I'm setting it up to be able to be converted from work van to weekender in less than 20 minutes. The back area holds stacks of systainers over the wheel wells. Those sys cart bases come out and cushions go on to make a seating area with a table in the middle. The seat backs then drop down to make the rear area a bed.

I've got a 12v fridge set up that runs off of 2 deep cycle batteries that charge off of the alternator. I've got a simple hand pump sink and a port-a-potty tucked away underneath. I insulated the walls and ceilings and then covered with ply. I still need to make wall panels and headliner (1/4" ply, batting, vinyl). I added the rubber floor mat - which I highly recommend as nothing slides around anymore. I had a bulkhead but ended up removing it. I like being able to walk to the back without getting out. I'm going to end up making a 3 piece heavy duty fabric partition.

Yesterday I cut a 14" hole in the roof to install a Maxxair ventilation fan. Pretty sweet. It has a thermostat built in and once the van gets too hot, it kicks on to start blowing the hot air out. If it is open and starts raining, it senses the rain and closes automatically. I also got window deflectors so I can leave the front windows cracked open for the vent fan and I don't have to worry about the rain.

I got a portable A/C unit set up and I made an infill piece for the passenger window out of marine ply and cut a hole in it for the A/C to vent. I also added a shore power outlet connection.

I've got a 2000 watt xantrex pure sine wave inverter coming in this week. I'm hoping to be able to run the majority of my power tools from it as some vessels we can't use any saws on (nor on the dock next to the vessel) so I'd like to be able to cut out in the van and go back to the boat versus having to go all the way back to the shop to make a few cuts.
Is the space over the cab useful or hard to access? I was surprised to see it sectioned off.
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Looking like a boat...good job.

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