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Old 07-07-2015, 01:44 PM   #21
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It's amazing with all the 'technology' involved in these vehicles we basically sit at the same point we were 10, 20 or more years ago - with less overall strength.

Funny how that 'just happens to stay that way'...
All gasoline consumption savings due to better engine management, better manufacturing, etc. But all that is limited, the amount of chemical energy contained in the gasoline. When you pull a trailer the amount of energy required is so great that all savings referenced are overshadowed by consumption required to move this great body composed of the truck and the trailer.
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Old 07-07-2015, 09:47 PM   #22
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Not a ford but I can get 15-17 empty and 12-14 with a trailer in my 6.4 Hemi with 4:10 gears. I have heard there are some discrepancies in the Eco listed MPG
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My dad's BIL has a 2015 F-150 with a 2.7L Ecoboost, empty he's averaging 20.8mpg in a crew cab Lariat. Still plenty of power, he says, but he's an F&I manager at a Ford dealer so he mostly hauls air.
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It looks like it's come to a matter of just because the Eco boost "can" pull my trailer it's probably not going to be safe, there is just not enough truck to handle many of the potential what if scenarios.
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I think with the right equipment the f150s are very capable machines. But I feel the same way you do and am very happy with my 250. I had an 2002 F350, 5.4L with a 9' utility bed and it got worse mpg than my 2011 6.2L pulling my 16' trailer. So I have way more power and better mpg.

The only thing would be ride quality. I have never felt this way about any truck but it really bothers others to feel a couple bumps here and there.
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It looks like it's come to a matter of just because the Eco boost "can" pull my trailer it's probably not going to be safe, there is just not enough truck to handle many of the potential what if scenarios.

I think if you set it up for towing they can be safe. I added air bags to the back of my truck after I bought it and it made a huge difference with trailer sway and overall control. Stock the suspensions are to soft even in the f250s
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I think if you set it up for towing they can be safe. I added air bags to the back of my truck after I bought it and it made a huge difference with trailer sway and overall control. Stock the suspensions are to soft even in the f250s

How much are you towing with your F-150?
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How much are you towing with your F-150?

My everyday trailer is ~4000 lbs and I have garage in the bed frequently.

I also tow a 6 x 12 dump from time to time
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You can pull more now safely than you ever could.

I did my fair share behind a SBC carbed suburban. the BBC's weren't that much better. 7mpg towing, and no power to spare. Coupled with less precise steering, 3 speed auto, undersized radiators, and surge brakes on the trailer, I'll take any one of these new pickups with sway control, big 4 wheel disc brakes, and integrated tow controllers.
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Just pulled a stuck cat skid steer out with a tow strap. I didn't think it was gonna pull it out, but did it with little effort
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Just pulled a stuck cat skid steer out with a tow strap. I didn't think it was gonna pull it out, but did it with little effort

I'm not denying there a bad a** little motor, I'm just not convinced that half ton truck can handle towing 8k pounds everyday and do it as safe as a 3/4 ton. And I really don't want to find out the hard way.

Now what I would love to see is a v-8 eco boost in a 3/4ton truck. 👍🏻
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not a ford guy, drove a v6 2011 for a month a year ago. heres my notes

the compass was off 15 degrees or so.......sound funny untill you get in the ozarks

the cruze SUCKED on any kind of high speed roads with much hills, on i-40 in ok and AR there was an 8+ mph fluctuation at 70 mph. and that variable whatever the crap it is was always cycling

The head rest SUCKS if our 6'1" and have bad neck

the truck said I avgd 18 mpg but my receipts showed closer to 15, same trip in my old 88 c1500 with a 4.3 and more of a load was 22 mpg, i think my c3500 with the 5.7 vortec would have done better then the eco on the road
bought all I know other then FORD circled the problem
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i think my c3500 with the 5.7 vortec would have done better then the eco on the road




5.7 = 255 HP ......330 ft/lb torque

ecoboost = 365 HP ......420 ft/torque

I'm sure with over 100hp less it pulled better than the chevy.


Unless you just drove the 3.7 v6 . That's not the ecoboost but has similar numbers to the 5.7
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not sure what ecoboost i was driving but as i said it had issues with hills at cruise, and that was without a trailer just full otherwise.

What I meant was fuel wise.......epa and manufacturers can spout all they want about MPG but real world calculations are often different due to many factors...... Engine/trans condition, Tune , tires and so on.

I also didn't say the 3500 was stock. Heads + intake , decked, port matched and polished, Air Raid w/ k&N , headers with low restricted cats, Msd, The trans has been worked over, and a tuned chip to run it all. Rolling on 31.5 x 10.5s
MPG is 18-24 for a 1 ton 4 door longbed and when I set the cruise its within 1 mph
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A friend of mine has a 2013 Ecoboost, it's got a mad amount of torque at fairly low RPMs, but doesn't have that low end pull off the line like a diesel does. Cruising on a road at 90km/h my hemi was doing about 13L/100k and his truck was doing around 11.5L/100K.

One thing I did notice about the ford was the seats in the front were vastly more comfortable than my dodge. I'd consider one for my next purchase.
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If a half ton would work for me if probably get the ecoboost
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I just looked up the HP of the 5.0 in the f-150. it's 385!!

wow

the dodge ram is 395


remember when the dodge magnum had 210 hp like 20 yrs ago and we thought that was good.
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is a 250 better for towing 8500 lbs? Sure. but a 550 is even better than a 250!!

a diesel pusher RV is better than a conversion van too, which is better than a pop up, which is better than a tent.

I'd still take a 2015 f150 to tow 8500 lbs with ecoboost than my old 92 chevy PU, it even being 3/4 ton. As long as the springs in the back are stiff, I'd imagine not too many issues.
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Well after talking with my accountant I was advised to buy a new truck for this year. I'm not sure if I want to buy a ford 350 or another 2500.
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