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Old 10-19-2018, 06:04 PM   #61
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My .02 cents.

I have a flatbed with boxes. I sold a crew cab long bed pickup, and bought it.

It's a little small, but a thousand times better than a pickup. I've worked out of service bodies a lot, and now, I could never go back to a pickup.

I carry a lot of stuff. A lot.

My next hopefully will be a 12' Scelzi Combo body on a Ram 5500. I can't stand automatic transmissions, and Dodge is the only one making a stick.

And it's got a Cummins.

Personally, I think you'll be very happy with a flatbed. Or service body. They are so easy to work out of. Even a flatbed is easy if you get low rails for it, like mine.


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That's a nice sled. I miss my '06 6 spd 4x4 5.9 dually probably more than any truck I've owned. Super easy to work on and had a dual mast clutch which was pretty much bullet proof. Loved that truck and the balls it had.

Driving stick around here will drive you bananas now though.
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Old 10-19-2018, 06:29 PM   #62
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I went through several iterations and trailers before this. Bought a F450 crew CC and had a Redding 12í stake body dump on. 2 4í under bed boxes. After awhile, I removed stakes and added 2 rows of aluminum side boxes. So 32í of tool storage. 100 gal diesel tank at bulkhead still leaves 8íx4íish for whatever. Can get 2 pallets back there. Had them install integrated rack front/back



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Thats a f-ing beast right there


A man could fit some tools in that thing.

There's a guy in town who works for a Contractor I know. He drives a Ram 5500 Crew Cab dually, with a 12' service body. The tall kind, that goes level with the cab roof.

Went over and peeked into it. The rear seat, and the entire front bench seat, besides the driver seat, were filled with tools. Big Hilti roto-hammer sitting about eye level in the middle seat. Stacked up.

Entire rear bed area, filled with tools and materials, plus a transfer tank. I can only assume the boxes were stuffed as well.

I guess no matter how big truck you get, you'll still fill it with tools, and then fill the cab. And then need more room.
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you do actually need a dually to haul large weight if you dont want a fine
maybe I have a different definition of large weight though

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The heaviest Iíve been on the scale is 35,500 lbs. I think thatís heavy weight for a pickup truck. Thatís without a dually, as long as you load the trailer right it doesnít squat the truck, I find it harder to drive with a pallet of shingles in the bed than having the gradall on the gooseneck.

Those DOT guys sure donít like it though.


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The heaviest Iíve been on the scale is 35,500 lbs. I think thatís heavy weight for a pickup truck. Thatís without a dually, as long as you load the trailer right it doesnít squat the truck, I find it harder to drive with a pallet of shingles in the bed than having the gradall on the gooseneck.

Those DOT guys sure donít like it though.


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and what truck are you pulling that weight with?
good luck when you get in an accident and get sued

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and what truck are you pulling that weight with?
good luck when you get in an accident and get sued

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2002 dodge 2500, now a 2010 dodge 3500. Both 6 spd with exhaust breaks.

Thanks for the good luck buddy! I sure do appreciate it.

Curious though, why would I get in an accident? And why would I get sued? Thatís a pretty ****ty image for you to come up with.

I drive responsibly, donít mess with the phone, pay attention and drive slow when Iíve got weight behind me, I donít see whatís wrong with it. Are you a cop? Do you think a fat truck driver with a peterbilt and a CDL would take better care of hauling my equipment than I do?


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2002 dodge 2500, now a 2010 dodge 3500. Both 6 spd with exhaust breaks.

Thanks for the good luck buddy! I sure do appreciate it.

Curious though, why would I get in an accident? And why would I get sued? Thatís a pretty ****ty image for you to come up with.

I drive responsibly, donít mess with the phone, pay attention and drive slow when Iíve got weight behind me, I donít see whatís wrong with it. Are you a cop? Do you think a fat truck driver with a peterbilt and a CDL would take better care of hauling my equipment than I do?


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Bro, let me lay this out for you:

You're driving along, grossing 35k, not messing with your phone, paying attention, and all that.

Someone coming the other way swerves to miss a deer, someone blows a stop sign, something breaks on your truck, and you hit someone, or someone hits you, you are at fault, period, because you are breaking the law.

I don't care how careful you are, sh!t happens, and it ain't worth getting sued, or killing someone and going to jail, just to save a couple hundred to get a fat truck driver and his peterbuilt to move your lift legally for you.

Not saying I'm innocent, because I have done stupid sh!t similar to you, but it's not worth it.

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Bro, let me lay this out for you:

You're driving along, grossing 35k, not messing with your phone, paying attention, and all that.

Someone coming the other way swerves to miss a deer, someone blows a stop sign, something breaks on your truck, and you hit someone, or someone hits you, you are at fault, period, because you are breaking the law.

I don't care how careful you are, sh!t happens, and it ain't worth getting sued, or killing someone and going to jail, just to save a couple hundred to get a fat truck driver and his peterbuilt to move your lift legally for you.

Not saying I'm innocent, because I have done stupid sh!t similar to you, but it's not worth it.

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Right on dude.

Itís legal here, Iím illegal because I havenít gotten my CDL yet. You can register a pickup truck to haul that kind of weight. DOT officer told me all about it while he wrote me a ticket for no CDL, had to get a dirt work buddy to come drive the rest of the way for me cause he had a CDL.

To be honest I havenít hauled more than my skid steer since that ticket, which Iím well within legal doing that.

I was answering a question about weight, I donít log onto contractor talk to get in a pissing match about stuff. This thread is about flatbeds, and I still am a firm believer that duallys ainít cool, and single rear wheels rule! And a single looks great under a flatbed.


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Dont know about pracicality, but the most fun I had in business was the era when I drove a 25 year old Ford dualie dumping stake truck.

Whatever came up, I mean ANYTHING, that old girl was up to the task.

And you couldn't hurt it.
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Right on dude.

Itís legal here, Iím illegal because I havenít gotten my CDL yet. You can register a pickup truck to haul that kind of weight. DOT officer told me all about it while he wrote me a ticket for no CDL, had to get a dirt work buddy to come drive the rest of the way for me cause he had a CDL.

To be honest I havenít hauled more than my skid steer since that ticket, which Iím well within legal doing that.

I was answering a question about weight, I donít log onto contractor talk to get in a pissing match about stuff. This thread is about flatbeds, and I still am a firm believer that duallys ainít cool, and single rear wheels rule! And a single looks great under a flatbed.


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Legal or not, I'm a firm believer that a single rear wheel truck pulling that kind of weight(edit for clarification 35k) is unsafe. I own both a dually and a single, and let me tell you, there is no comparison. But each to his own.

I'm not looking to get into a pissing match either, so we'll leave it at that.

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The heaviest Iíve been on the scale is 35,500 lbs. I think thatís heavy weight for a pickup truck. Thatís without a dually, as long as you load the trailer right it doesnít squat the truck, I find it harder to drive with a pallet of shingles in the bed than having the gradall on the gooseneck.

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here you say dot doesn't like it

then you try to defend your self by saying you talked to the dot and it's all legal

I dont believe the dot will let you exceed gross axle weights, gvwr set by manufacturer, and your tow rating for your truck

just cause you can pull it doesn't mean you should. you need to stop it , that's more important

but your right, srw are the best!!! does it have a lift kit and big mud tires so you look extra cool while towing your overweight load??

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here you say dot doesn't like it

then you try to defend your self by saying you talked to the dot and it's all legal

I dont believe the dot will let you exceed gross axle weights, gvwr set by manufacturer, and your tow rating for your truck

just cause you can pull it doesn't mean you should. you need to stop it , that's more important

but your right, srw are the best!!! does it have a lift kit and big mud tires so you look extra cool while towing your overweight load??

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I used to tow on a pretty regular basis about 20k lbs of cypress in my dually from North Florida down here, bout a 4 HR drive. I couldn't imagine another 15k on it. When I did it with the international, the difference was night and day as to how easily I controlled the trailer.

Just my .02

No ****ing way I'd tow 35k on a SRW and I am pretty well known for doing dumb ****.
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I was 33k combined one time, it was the most horrible two hours of my life.

Thinking about converting the old 97 to a dually.

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I was 33k combined one time, it was the most horrible two hours of my life.

Thinking about converting the old 97 to a dually.

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I took it as just the trailer and load we're 35k. With the truck I would have been about 28k. It wasn't too bad with the dually and 6 spd but nothing I'd want to do with a single rear wheel.
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I took it as just the trailer and load we're 35k. With the truck I would have been about 28k. It wasn't too bad with the dually and 6 spd but nothing I'd want to do with a single rear wheel.
I'm pretty sure he was talking 35k combined.

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I'm pretty sure he was talking 35k combined.

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Gotcha. I know I was close to tow capacity at towing 20k and 28k combined in an '06. It's a bit butt puckering for a long drive but I never felt I was or putting anyone else in danger. With my truck now (SRW) I've towed 12 and felt less safe.
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if your towing anything heavy a drw or even a medium duty truck is the way to go

you usually find drw cheaper because less people want them

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if your towing anything heavy a drw or even a medium duty truck is the way to go

you usually find drw cheaper because less people want them

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The extra width makes all the difference in the world. The sway that a SRW experiences in heavy loads is minimal in a DRW. When I towed with the international and air brakes, an everyday truck couldn't even compare (DRW or not) but the aren't anywhere near as comfy. Truck alone weighed 20k with the ambulance body. I shouldn't of tore the body off and kept it as a flatbed.
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here you say dot doesn't like it

then you try to defend your self by saying you talked to the dot and it's all legal

I dont believe the dot will let you exceed gross axle weights, gvwr set by manufacturer, and your tow rating for your truck

just cause you can pull it doesn't mean you should. you need to stop it , that's more important

but your right, srw are the best!!! does it have a lift kit and big mud tires so you look extra cool while towing your overweight load??

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They donít like it, we got a guy around here that pulls everybody over. While he was going over my ticket with me he explained how I could do it legally. I didnít fully understand it either, but he said you can legally do it. I see other guys hauling backhoes and the occasional gradall with pickups.

I donít have a lift on it, itís a work truck. I do have knobby tires, they help me get to job sites.


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I canít be the only one here that has a tandem dual flatbed trailer rated at 20k that uses it to its full potential.

I never said I donít hire truckers, because I do use them, but if itís not too far, and there arenít big hills to go down Iíll haul equipment myself. So if youíre ever around Jefferson County Montana, watch out, because I might be breaking the law! Jk

I upgraded trucks this year, and I looked at a bunch of duallys because they usually are cheaper. But I was able to find a srw which is what I prefer. I only drive it half the time, whenever I gotta pull a trailer, usually I just drive a 1/2 ton Chevy, and I always hate reaching over the bed rails for tools or whatever after using the flatbed.


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