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Joasis 05-27-2014 09:16 PM

Dodge 2500 4x4 Diesel
 
Traded a few days ago. New one came in this evening and is getting a spray in liner, turnover ball, grill guard/bumper on the front. Basic Tradesman work truck with U-connect, satellite radio, and vinyl floors. cloth seats. 8 foot long bed. I will pick it up on Thursday or Friday when I have time.

I have not bought a new work truck for 15 years...I always buy used. Wonder how I will like this one? $25k in tax credit...so this is the only big ticket buy of the year.

TimNJ 05-27-2014 09:50 PM

:thumbup::thumbup:

NCMCarpentry 05-27-2014 09:53 PM

...Stick shift?

griz 05-27-2014 09:54 PM

WTF....No Fords available....:laughing:

WarnerConstInc. 05-27-2014 10:54 PM

I just spent some time in a 2014 3500 crewbab 4x4 with a cummins. Other then the price, I think they just might be the best choice in diesel hd trucks. Look good, nice interior (this one had everything including a 67k msrp).

The fuel mileage was a little disappointing, but I figure it will improve some over time.

Inner10 05-28-2014 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by WarnerConstInc. (Post 2025444)
I just spent some time in a 2014 3500 crewbab 4x4 with a cummins. Other then the price, I think they just might be the best choice in diesel hd trucks. Look good, nice interior (this one had everything including a 67k msrp).

The fuel mileage was a little disappointing, but I figure it will improve some over time.

I've been driving trucks on and off my whole life and I've never had one that got dramatically different mileage than another.

WarnerConstInc. 05-28-2014 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Inner10 (Post 2025538)
I've been driving trucks on and off my whole life and I've never had one that got dramatically different mileage than another.

I have never owned a car.

Towing 10k we only got about 11 to 12 mpg, highway with no load was closer to 16. That is slightly dissapointing for a cummins turbo diesel, when 10 years prior they will consistently crack 22mpg on the highway.

Joasis 05-28-2014 06:58 AM

Sticker on this one was 49,600. WOW.

I think it is absolutely insane what we pay for trucks.

My reason for going 3/4 ton with a pickup bed is this: DOT. I am sick and tired of being hassled driving a 1 ton with a work bed and the assumption that we are hauling for hire when we are not, and the latest is being told I have signage on my truck and that means I am commercial. I run a private tag for a reason, and I can still private tag a pickup.

My last truck, the '07 Duramax, has been an awesome puller and all around truck, but at 200k, it is starting the issue parade. I can be tooling along and all of a sudden, the air blows HOT from one side of the dual climate controlled vents....and you have to come to a stop, turn key off, and restart and proceed. May not happen again that day, may happen in the next mile. The transmission is starting to slip or it seems....little wonder since I used to pull our telehandlers with it....hauling 33,000 pounds behind a truck that already weighs 10,000. I notice there is a distinctive "jerk" sometimes when it shifts. And other nickel and dime deals that drive you nuts.....I carry a box of fuses and blow them regularly on the light circuits.....I blame this on an isolated short circuit in the work bed, since it does not carry a factory wire harness....intermittent electrical issues drive me insane.

Last new truck was in '98, and then a series of used trucks, all but the Ford were great. The 6.0 Powerstroke should have been removed and shoved up the anus of the engineer that designed it and it soured me forever on Fords. There was no risk of being caught pulling one of our telehandlers with the Ford since it would barely pull itself.

I recently bought a new tilt bed trailer for the Bobcat and electric scissors, a new flat bed for utility hauling, and may not ever use the gooseneck ball in the new truck. Leave the heavy hauls for the semi.

I will take a picture when I get the new baby home.

Joasis 05-28-2014 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Inner10 (Post 2025538)
I've been driving trucks on and off my whole life and I've never had one that got dramatically different mileage than another.

All I could say to that is you haven't been around a whole lot of trucks.

Basically, it takes X amount of fuel to move so much weight and it can vary dramatically based on many factors, least of which is weight.

My '03 Duramax routinely returned 16 mpg average, and would do 14 pulling....all averaged of course. My Ford 6.0 was a fricking POS that took 12 mpg to get out of it's own way. My '07 Duramax without a tune was getting 11....with a power tune it increased to 15 mpg average but when pulling a trailer most days it would drop to 10.

I have known for a fact 2 guys who ran the 12 valve Cummins in the early Dodges and they got a real 20+ mpg. I talked with a guy before buying mine and he says 18 without a load.

Now all this talk is splitting hairs.......but when you drive 50k miles a year, it matters when you take the mileage expense. :clap:

BTW boys.....the latest generation of class 8 trucks are getting 9 mpg.....and this is pulling close to 80k average. All thanks to computer fuel management.

Joasis 05-28-2014 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WarnerConstInc. (Post 2025547)
I have never owned a car.

Towing 10k we only got about 11 to 12 mpg, highway with no load was closer to 16. That is slightly dissapointing for a cummins turbo diesel, when 10 years prior they will consistently crack 22mpg on the highway.

I have heard the same thing....guess the regeneration is the culprit.

MPG would not matter Darcy to you if you would stop buying iron. I suppose if a 48 inch jointer was discovered somewhere in Oregon, you would be gone? :thumbup:

WarnerConstInc. 05-28-2014 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Joasis (Post 2025554)

I have heard the same thing....guess the regeneration is the culprit.

MPG would not matter Darcy to you if you would stop buying iron. I suppose if a 48 inch jointer was discovered somewhere in Oregon, you would be gone? :thumbup:

Well yeah.

Inner10 05-28-2014 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Joasis (Post 2025553)

All I could say to that is you haven't been around a whole lot of trucks.

Basically, it takes X amount of fuel to move so much weight and it can vary dramatically based on many factors, least of which is weight.

My '03 Duramax routinely returned 16 mpg average, and would do 14 pulling....all averaged of course. My Ford 6.0 was a fricking POS that took 12 mpg to get out of it's own way. My '07 Duramax without a tune was getting 11....with a power tune it increased to 15 mpg average but when pulling a trailer most days it would drop to 10.

I have known for a fact 2 guys who ran the 12 valve Cummins in the early Dodges and they got a real 20+ mpg. I talked with a guy before buying mine and he says 18 without a load.

Now all this talk is splitting hairs.......but when you drive 50k miles a year, it matters when you take the mileage expense. :clap:

BTW boys.....the latest generation of class 8 trucks are getting 9 mpg.....and this is pulling close to 80k average. All thanks to computer fuel management.

Those numbers don't seem that different until mention someone else's mileage...I've never had a diesel truck either so I can't compare.

The worst was my father's old 78 Uhaul with a 330HD. It seemed like it got 10mpg everywhere, trailer and loaded or empty.

The 84 duel fuel chev with a 305 probably got about 12 mpg running gas.

1990 Ford 300 was pretty close as well, I don't remember exactly what it got.

2000 Chevy one ton cube with a 350 got 12 mpg.

My current 2011 half ton hemi gets on average 13.

thesidingpro 05-28-2014 07:54 AM

I love the Dodge Diesels. Just can't get over the sticker shock. It is insane what new trucks cost today.

ESSaustin 05-28-2014 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WarnerConstInc. (Post 2025547)

Towing 10k we only got about 11 to 12 mpg, highway with no load was closer to 16. That is slightly dissapointing for a cummins turbo diesel, when 10 years prior they will consistently crack 22mpg on the highway.

Ten years ago they didn't have all the emissions crap to choke them down. My '11 chassis cab gets about 9mpg towing, my 06 gets about 12-14. The 06 has an open exhaust and hi flow intake, the 11 is stock.

Joasis 05-28-2014 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Inner10 (Post 2025589)
Those numbers don't seem that different until mention someone else's mileage...I've never had a diesel truck either so I can't compare.

The worst was my father's old 78 Uhaul with a 330HD. It seemed like it got 10mpg everywhere, trailer and loaded or empty.

The 84 duel fuel chev with a 305 probably got about 12 mpg running gas.

1990 Ford 300 was pretty close as well, I don't remember exactly what it got.

2000 Chevy one ton cube with a 350 got 12 mpg.

My current 2011 half ton hemi gets on average 13.

Exactly.

I don't spend a lot of time thinking about what mileage claims are out there. What I do know is the generation of diesels with computer fuel management have made incredible advances in fuel efficiency.

The early Cummins in the Dodge trucks was a mechanical fuel control, and thus could be driven very economically....but they did not produce the power we take for granted in the new diesels.

I started in the oil field here hauling with trucks that were powered by 220 and 250 normally aspirated diesels.....and these trucks pulled 80,000 plus every day and needed 13 and and 16 speed gears to do it.....now, my one ton puts out twice the torque and horsepower and makes twice the mileage.....we have come along way.

My semi that I move out heavy stuff with now gets about 6mpg, up hill or down, loaded or empty, and and puts out a blistering 190 BHP out of a DT466 and 5 speed gear box......but, it is legal in the eyes of the DOT. :laughing:

Just a trip down memory lane.....how many remember the old Fords with the 4bbl 460? Now that was gas mileage. :thumbsup:

WarnerConstInc. 05-28-2014 08:21 AM

I drive a 78 crew cab chevy with a 454 and a q jet. I can get 12mpg at 58 mph.

I don't think any 460 gets over 10. My brother has a 95 with 50k on the efi 460 and it is not a commuter for sure.

Morning Wood 05-28-2014 05:37 PM

You guys are all rookies. 2005 F350 V10. 9 around town, 7 towing, 6-6.5 plowing snow. It's brutal. Nice truck Joasis. I can't wait till I can afford a new truck.

jhark123 05-28-2014 06:57 PM

Your V10 needs a tune up or you're running big tires, etc. My CC long bed 2004 F350 V10 with lift gate and hi side boxes gets 12.5 hwy, 10 mixed and 9 towing.

dkillianjr 05-28-2014 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Morning Wood (Post 2025788)
You guys are all rookies. 2005 F350 V10. 9 around town, 7 towing, 6-6.5 plowing snow. It's brutal. Nice truck Joasis. I can't wait till I can afford a new truck.




I had an 09 f250 v10 and mine was the exact same since it was new. I averaged 8mpg according to the dash computer. I had 4:10 gears so that didn't help either :laughing:


Dave

QCCI 05-28-2014 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Joasis
Traded a few days ago. New one came in this evening and is getting a spray in liner, turnover ball, grill guard/bumper on the front. Basic Tradesman work truck with U-connect, satellite radio, and vinyl floors. cloth seats. 8 foot long bed. I will pick it up on Thursday or Friday when I have time. I have not bought a new work truck for 15 years...I always buy used. Wonder how I will like this one? $25k in tax credit...so this is the only big ticket buy of the year.

I'd like to hear how you like the truck. My HVAC sub said he's been having some minor issues, something to do with the new emissions bull crap.

I ordered a new Dodge about 4 weeks ago. My guest Dodge!! Still waiting....supposed to be ready first week in July. Waiting for the bed to be built.


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