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Old 01-31-2019, 09:09 AM   #21
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Were you out today setting the railroad tracks on fire?


Fortunately HELL NO!

i was on days off plus i am lucky enough to have a rare inside job for my occupation so i dont have battle the elements.

I do feel for my colleagues out there though since There is nothing like hanging on the side of a freight car going 10mph for a half mile or so in this weather


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Old 01-31-2019, 09:11 AM   #22
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Water heaters work great if your heat load is around 30,000 btu or less. A simple Taco or Grundfos recirc pump on a 120V thermostat is all you need. Will take days to heat up and days to cool down. Best to set the temp and forget.

Pipe loops must be close to the same length. 300' for 1/2" pipe is a good length or else the pump has a hard time moving water through and the end of the run will be cold.

One strategy is parallel loops instead of quadrants so if one fails, you don't have a major cold area.

Should use O2 barrier pex.
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Interesting idea in tbat radiant heat. How are you circulating the water?

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There is a small 3 speed pump attached to the wall next to the water heater.
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I've got a 40' x 60' x 16' pre-engineered steel building. 40' x 45' is shop, 15' x 40' heated and AC man cave with restroom, etc., built about 20 years ago.

* Insulate the heck out of it, big buildings like this are expensive to heat.
* Lots of good LED lighting.
* I did overhead CO RAY VAC gas fired radiant heat in shop. If I was doing it over would do heated floors with a boiler.
* Wood stoves are great to warm the place up real nice while you're out there, but check with your insurance company.
* Do a sloped floor area with trench drain and have a water hydrant in shop so you can wash vehicles indoors.
* Floor drains anywhere you are going to park a vehicle.
* 16' Height will allow you to install some commercial storage racking. That stuff is great for getting things off the floor and out of the way.
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At 16 ceilings Id definitely want a mezzanine on one side or along the back


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Truck garages around here use hit water in the floor slab up here a lot. You can lie down on the floor and not freeze. Your feet stay warm standing.
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Awesome, I thought this would be a hit.

I've got an existing pad the previous HO poured, but I didn't have any intention of using the entire pad for a structure.
I'm small time. I just want tool and material storage and somewhere to work on my trucks out of the weather.
I was thinking 16' because my last spot was 14' and it pissed me off a couple times. It'd be nice to be able to store trim stock vertically.

rrk is on the money about my visions being tempered by the tax man. I doubt any plumbing is happening. Might even end up running power out there by the light of the moon.
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You're already taxed for the slab.

Put up poles and roof the whole thing, taxes on that should be dirt.
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I have a friend who put a yard hydrant and a gfi on a post right next to his garage to avoid having it taxed as a garage with utilities.
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Once you have a good roof, you can put darn near anything under it and avoid more taxes. Containers, box truck, RV, circus tent, you name it.

I'm thinking circus tent would be a good look for easy, everyone would want to see his operation, plus kicking back watching the game on a wide screen and having a few with your buddies would have a different atmosphere.
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didn't have any intention of using the entire pad for a structure.

I'm small time. I just want tool and material storage

Great......we were all excited when we saw a 40x40 pad and were brainstorming hoping to see a garage mahal with infloor heat, vehicle lifts and a truck wash area and now i see that its working out to be a home depot shed, a space heater and an outdoor parking pad for the truck.....


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Temporary structures that you don't pay taxes on can be very cheap and inexpensive. Most of them involve making a frame of PVC tubing or wood, then wrapping it in plastic. People store their boats at home that way and it all gets shrinkwrapped.

In snow areas, you really need to have it peaked so the snow slides off, avoiding beefing everything up to handle snow loads. Gothic arches are pretty common.

People construct greenhouses thus way, too. Fast, cheap, surprisingly durable, and not taxed
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i have a 22x50 .my work is across the board .did 5 tables one year . this year it is all about getting rentals upgraded .last year it was a remodel -rat shed to living environment . shop is now stuffed with tools .8" joiner ,15" planer etc . 10' ceiling . box truck could back in but long ago that area in front of the door filled .there is never enough space .a cabinet job absorbs open areas ,remodels and various jobs like I am doing leaves no open space uncovered.10' ceiling is enough to flip a sheet of plywood .Trenches or pipes in the floor to run air hose ,electric and dust collection are smart moves . I also have two small out buildings for more tools and supplies.your 40x40 might seem large but it will so easily get stuffed .Plan ahead so that it doesn't become a collect all .set it up so you can organize it .
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Temporary structures that you don't pay taxes on can be very cheap and inexpensive. Most of them involve making a frame of PVC tubing or wood, then wrapping it in plastic. People store their boats at home that way and it all gets shrinkwrapped.
Not in NJ, temporary structures can only be up for 6 months a year. They really want ALL of our money.
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Not in NJ, temporary structures can only be up for 6 months a year. They really want ALL of our money.
NJ seems damned inconvenient...
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NJ seems damned inconvenient...
You have no idea
If I replace 5 sheets of drywall in a room that has 12 sheets I need a permit
If I replace 100 sheets in a 500 sheet room no permit is needed
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Not in NJ, temporary structures can only be up for 6 months a year. They really want ALL of our money.


And i bet after 6 months plus one day you get a tax bill for it!!

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And i bet after 6 months plus one day you get a tax bill for it!!

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some towns within a month of final inspection gets taxed on the amount of the improvement not that value of the improvement
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At 16 ceilings Id definitely want a mezzanine on one side or along the back
Having had a couple shop buildings with mezzanines in the past I would strongly recommend against a mezzanine. They just fill up with junk that should be thrown out anyway and you only go up there about every ten years for a big clean up and throw out session.
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Having had a couple shop buildings with mezzanines in the past I would strongly recommend against a mezzanine. They just fill up with junk that should be thrown out anyway and you only go up there about every ten years for a big clean up and throw out session.
this makes sense .I could see this happening to me .

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