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Old 11-21-2013, 09:45 AM   #1
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Well This Is A Smack In The Face From Makita!


Just went over to toolguyd and come across this. If this is true it looks like Makita has given the middle finger to most of us with tools more than 1-2 years old.



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Won't accept the new battery's. that better not be the case as I'm gonna be pissed. There's no reason other than them making you buy new sets of tools if this is true.
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Old 11-21-2013, 11:54 AM   #2
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Boy I hope you're not right about that

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sounds like they teamed up with Apple products...."buy new cause it wont work with the old..." kinda crap....
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It would be so bad if the tools were a redesign but they are exactly the same tools with just different basses. I guess I could modify the base if they don't fit. None of my mates who have these battery's have the older bases on their tools so they have no idea either. Guess I'm gonna have to try it my self.
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Just got a new impact , batteries have a star and work with my saw?
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I think I'm in the clear. I'll have to check tomorrow
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It would be so bad if the tools were a redesign but they are exactly the same tools with just different basses. I guess I could modify the base if they don't fit. None of my mates who have these battery's have the older bases on their tools so they have no idea either. Guess I'm gonna have to try it my self.
You'd have to find out why the base is different. Could it be an internal electronics tweak that makes it not compatible and the base is a safety measure so newer packs don't fry the older tools?
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I can't see any reason as to why the batteries being a higher amp hr would hurt the older tools. They are exactly the same tools with different bases. If it was an increase in voltage I could understand but increasing the AH dies nothing except give longer run times. Now if they bought out a brand new range like dewalt did that would kind of answer that question but they didnt.

I noticed the yellow base with no star has 2 contacts yet the other bases have 3 contacts. So if the yellow one with no star works why not the black on with no star? Both have 2 contacts. I'm hoping they just say this hoping that most people will just upgrade their tools instead if checking it fits and runs. I have been holing out for the 4.0ah batteries for ages and then they say this!
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I can't see any reason as to why the batteries being a higher amp hr would hurt the older tools. They are exactly the same tools with different bases. If it was an increase in voltage I could understand but increasing the AH dies nothing except give longer run times. Now if they bought out a brand new range like dewalt did that would kind of answer that question but they didnt.

I noticed the yellow base with no star has 2 contacts yet the other bases have 3 contacts. So if the yellow one with no star works why not the black on with no star? Both have 2 contacts. I'm hoping they just say this hoping that most people will just upgrade their tools instead if checking it fits and runs. I have been holing out for the 4.0ah batteries for ages and then they say this!
I feel your maktia pain. I think they had such a good run with the current platform that they had to change it up to get new sales. To force us to buy another set of tools that will fit the new batteries.
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I can't see any reason as to why the batteries being a higher amp hr would hurt the older tools. They are exactly the same tools with different bases. If it was an increase in voltage I could understand but increasing the AH dies nothing except give longer run times. Now if they bought out a brand new range like dewalt did that would kind of answer that question but they didnt.

I noticed the yellow base with no star has 2 contacts yet the other bases have 3 contacts. So if the yellow one with no star works why not the black on with no star? Both have 2 contacts. I'm hoping they just say this hoping that most people will just upgrade their tools instead if checking it fits and runs. I have been holing out for the 4.0ah batteries for ages and then they say this!
As BC points out, maybe that extra terminal is a feedback type thing for charging efficiecy/control.... and will still work fine on the tool.

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Is the protection circuitry in the tools now so they can make the batteries for cheaper?

And theoretically, certain higher amp hour batteries COULD harm tools if they can deliver more amps. I believe Makita is using Sony us18650vtc4 cells which are capable of delivering 30 amps, so 60 since there are two sets of 5. That could fry non-protected tools when stalled.
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Not sure whats going on, but the new battery runs all my old tools..
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Not sure whats going on, but the new battery runs all my old tools..
Siberian what bases are on your tools? Are they solid black with no star?
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im in the same boat as you guys. .i bought a 3pc makita kit a year ago.. ill have to check if their compatible.. if not ill be upgrading to a new kit when this current one dies.. i average about 2 years out of kits
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Pawn everything before the batteries go completely dead and get all Festool and Hilti.
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I was already ready to Ditch the Makita stuff I have because of how long it's taken to get a pack redesign. This may just push me over the edge. Won't be buying another tool from them if this is the case with the packs.
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Yeah ditch it, you're a pro aren't you? If you're going to buy a tool, get the best one.
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Yeah ditch it, you're a pro aren't you? If you're going to buy a tool, get the best one.
"Best" is subjective in most cases. Can you show me another cordless lineup as comprehensive as Makita? Festool and Hilti sure don't offer one.
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"Best" is subjective in most cases. Can you show me another cordless lineup as comprehensive as Makita? Festool and Hilti sure don't offer one.
Depends what trade your in, Milwaukee panders to industrial and commercial Electricians and HVAC for cordless tools, they just released a knockout punch set up for steel studs. That being said I would buy a dual M18 chainsaw if Milwaukee made one.
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You'll just have to buy the 3AH batteries to keep your tools going at the worst.

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