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Old 04-15-2013, 09:02 AM   #1
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Watch Your Trailer Weights!


Just went through scales and calculated some things.

Trailer and truck weight 12040lbs
Trailer weights 5740lbs
Truck weights 6300lbs

Trailer max payload 4550lb as spec'd

So I have to clear 1200lbs of weight from my trailer! guess I'm gonna have to remove some stuff from it. Beware guys as some of you lot with single axles and longer dual axle trailers may be well over your capacities if you get pulled. I can't believe I'm that much over.



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Old 04-15-2013, 09:12 AM   #2
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Re: Watch Your Trailer Weights!


It's amazing how fast things add up.

That's why my trailer purchase in the near future is speced with 10k axels and radial tires.

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It's amazing how fast things add up.

That's why my trailer purchase in the near future is speced with 10k axels and radial tires.
Yeah I only have 7000lb axles and I thought they would be more than enough. It's gonna be hard losing that many lbs worth of tools.
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wow, you do have a pretty heavy trailer. i am surprised your truck is that heavy also.
i often wondered if i load up a 16' with shelves and tools how much it would weigh?
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If the payload of your trailer is 4500 pounds, what does the trailer weigh? I don't think it is over loaded.

I think you are close, but I think the math is not quite right.

Heaviest I have been over scales with my 2500 Burban and equipment trailer was 21000 pounds.

Shhhhh, don't tell everyone though.

I agree, that is a heavy 1/2 ton ford.
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Just put the truck though the scales on its own. I was a couple hundred off with my hand calculations. The trucks curb weight is 6520lbs with half a tank of fuel.

Trailer weights 2340lbs dry.



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What's crazy is if i bought the single axle version I would have 1160lbs payload! You would hit that limit extremely quickly.
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My trailer reads a gross weight of 2980, and the trailer empty is like 1850 on the paper work. So it gives me barely 1100 #. Its a single axle. Axle is a 3500# I keep 6 ply radials on it. Rides real good at around 4000+.........also I have no lettering anywhere, so that may work to my favor.
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Just went through scales and calculated some things.

Trailer and truck weight 12040lbs
Trailer weights 5740lbs
Truck weights 6300lbs

Trailer max payload 4550lb as spec'd

So I have to clear 1200lbs of weight from my trailer! guess I'm gonna have to remove some stuff from it. Beware guys as some of you lot with single axles and longer dual axle trailers may be well over your capacities if you get pulled. I can't believe I'm that much over.



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You are fine on your trailer if it is 7000 gvw and it weighs with payload at 5740 you could add 1260 lbs to be right at 7000lbs. Trailer payload is the amount of cargo you can carry not cargo and trailer combined.
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You are fine on your trailer if it is 7000 gvw and it weighs with payload at 5740 you could add 1260 lbs to be right at 7000lbs. Trailer payload is the amount of cargo you can carry not cargo and trailer combined.
Gvwr means trailer and load combined. Same as it does on a vehicle. You have to delete your curb weight from your GVWR then what ever is left is your payload capacity.

Ok I get what your saying. Seems my math is crap lol. Panic over I can add more tools lol

Right I see where I went wrong I forgot to take away the weight of the trailer from the total to get my current payload
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never mind was correcting math lol
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My trailer reads a gross weight of 2980, and the trailer empty is like 1850 on the paper work. So it gives me barely 1100 #. Its a single axle. Axle is a 3500# I keep 6 ply radials on it. Rides real good at around 4000+.........also I have no lettering anywhere, so that may work to my favor.
Right up until you get into and accident and they decide to weigh your trailer, then you are screwed. Insurance won't cover you then. I know someone who had this problem. He is still paying.

The 2990 gvw is so they don't need brakes on the trailer if I remember correctly. Anything over 3000 needs brakes.
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Right up until you get into and accident and they decide to weigh your trailer, then you are screwed. Insurance won't cover you then. I know someone who had this problem. He is still paying.

The 2990 gvw is so they don't need brakes on the trailer if I remember correctly. Anything over 3000 needs brakes.
That's correct with the brakes
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Just a matter of time until every trailer will get tagged and weighed, and ignorance of the law will not be an excuse. This is more about revenue then safety, although the DOT will tell you it is all about safety while they write tickets totaling thousands because you didn't know.
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Too bad you were not a little closer. Then you could have rearranged it a bit to have more tounge weight.
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Too bad you were not a little closer. Then you could have rearranged it a bit to have more tounge weight.
Huh?
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His point is that if you load heavier items towards the front of your trailer, some of their weight is transferred to the rear axle of the truck. FYI a general rool of thumb, if that no matter how heavy your trailer, 20% or more should be tongue weight.
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Yeah. You have to be careful with those single axle trailers. I went across the scale at the gravel pit with 5 yards of crushed stone. 22660 total. Not bad with my truck and dump trailer. Don't have an empty weight so I don't know if I was overweight or not. Probably slightly.
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His point is that if you load heavier items towards the front of your trailer, some of their weight is transferred to the rear axle of the truck. FYI a general rool of thumb, if that no matter how heavy your trailer, 20% or more should be tongue weight.
Actually it is 10%. The same as the hitch total load, tongue weight load differential.

Also all ratings are for a properly equipped vehicle. The more weight you place on the rear axle, the more weight you take off the steering axle, that's a bad thing. A proper load distributing system splits the load between the axles.

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I used to pull my 10,000 GVWR dump trailer with a 3/4 ton van.

The first time I went to the dump, I had two 2600 pound transformers in the back of the van and a load of scrap drywall in the trailer. On the way in, I weighed 16,800 pounds. On the way out, I weighed 11550 pounds. This established my "empty weight" of 11550 for the van/trailer combo. So, the next time to that dump, I could just weigh and pay on entry.

On the next trip to the dump, I had the trailer piled high with some shipping boxes, pallets and other fairly lightweight stuff. On the way in I weighed 10,420.


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