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Old 07-22-2019, 10:55 PM   #1141
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It's just not a true worm drive; just a sidewinder with rear handle/ gril.



Milwaukee is coming out with a full size (comparable to corded) in their 18v package soon, though that I'll be interested in.


I don't think any of the rear handles are true wormy's.


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Old 07-22-2019, 11:31 PM   #1142
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It's just not a true worm drive; just a sidewinder with rear handle/ gril.

Milwaukee is coming out with a full size (comparable to corded) in their 18v package soon, though that I'll be interested in.
Worm drive isn't really a feature, it's a solution to a problem with AC motor size/torque/speed limitations. The only way to get good power out of an AC motor without making it huge and heavy is to make it spin faster. But then the torque is low, so they gear it down with the worm drive. Either way it's still fairly long, so better to turn it 90 degrees and make a saw shape that West coast carpenters like.

Now that they can (supposedly) make a BLDC motor with good torque and rpm specs for such a saw, they can go direct drive, and eliminate the need for oil and gears to sap power.
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Worm drive isn't really a feature, it's a solution to a problem with AC motor size/torque/speed limitations. The only way to get good power out of an AC motor without making it huge and heavy is to make it spin faster. But then the torque is low, so they gear it down with the worm drive. Either way it's still fairly long, so better to turn it 90 degrees and make a saw shape that West coast carpenters like.



Now that they can (supposedly) make a BLDC motor with good torque and rpm specs for such a saw, they can go direct drive, and eliminate the need for oil and gears to sap power.
Yup, it's like converting a saw to three phase power.

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Worm drive isn't really a feature, it's a solution to a problem with AC motor size/torque/speed limitations. The only way to get good power out of an AC motor without making it huge and heavy is to make it spin faster. But then the torque is low, so they gear it down with the worm drive. Either way it's still fairly long, so better to turn it 90 degrees and make a saw shape that West coast carpenters like.

Now that they can (supposedly) make a BLDC motor with good torque and rpm specs for such a saw, they can go direct drive, and eliminate the need for oil and gears to sap power.
People were out calling it a worm drive awhile ago....hence my statement.

This boy is used to direct drive, so the longer body doesn't appeal. I will take a more powerful 18v, though, when Milwaukee comes out with it hopefully in 2020.
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I don't think any of the rear handles are true wormy's.


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Yeah, I am not aware of any either. I had a Dewalt cordless circular saw about 18 years ago that didn't have much power. I doubt the battery could have supported the loss of energy via worm geering.
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Yeah, I am not aware of any either. I had a Dewalt cordless circular saw about 18 years ago that didn't have much power. I doubt the battery could have supported the loss of energy via worm geering.


The last saw Milwaukee made has more power. It's a right side blade.


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The last saw Milwaukee made has more power. It's a right side blade.


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I went to a tool show about a month ago and the Milwaukee guy had a full size 18v circ. It was about as heavy as a corded saw, same size. They want it out next year but are working out the kinks, he said.
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This saws a beast maybe it was this one that he's taking about. It's the third generation.

https://www.cpomilwaukee.com/milwauk...xoCWG0QAvD_BwE


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Not really a purchase, but a fun laser combo use.

So this was a surprise for me today. We were framing daylight and walkout walls and had both my Hilti and Stabila LA 180-L lasers out. We had the Stabila receiver attached to a stick level and were about to check elevations. All of a sudden it went off, and we discovered it was picking up the Hilti level laser beam. Cool, because it's a lot smaller and easier to maneuver around.

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Can you tell us how effective that stabila is for squaring ??


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The biggest issue I have is getting a good line of sight when squaring up walkout foundations. However, if you can generally position the laser at center of either end, of a shorter run of a home, and align it to the center of the other side....it does well at squaring up. I try and set up parralel to the longest runs. I also use the finest setting and then I even center my actual mark between the slight variance on the receiver. In other words, I find the outside area of where the reader signals true (side to side), and then center it.

Its certainly saving me time and improving accuracy, especially on multi level foundations.
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Just got finished comparing the accuracy between the Stabila and Hilti reads via the Stabila receiver. They were dead nuts at around 40'. I don't see much of an issue using it out to 75'. I'd verify 75' and beyond before trusting it.
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Great strategy for Bosch if they can pull it off. No one else makes the lock system (yet) so you have to buy their premium priced accessories. Or it could just flop cause no one wants to buy proprietary tools with proprietary accessories.
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Great strategy for Bosch if they can pull it off. No one else makes the lock system (yet) so you have to buy their premium priced accessories. Or it could just flop cause no one wants to buy proprietary tools with proprietary accessories.
ya.. getting disks off easy isn't worth looking for proprietary discs in a bind. You know they will be sold out or not around when you need them haha. Hopefully they come put with an attachment to use normal discs as well

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Or the big box only carries two choices and it's never the disc you need.

Besides, I rarely change the discs on my grinder. I've had the same one on there for probably 5 or 6 years. I only grind aluminum normally, but its doesn't interest me too much.

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it does suck when I can't find the wrench and im using a flat head and hammer to loosen the disc...

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I can't remember the last time I needed a tool to change a disk--and I switch them out fairly regularly. I just hold the lock button with one hand and tighten or loosen the nut by turning the disk with the other hand.

They don't need to be super-tight to work well.
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I can't remember the last time I needed a tool to change a disk--and I switch them out fairly regularly. I just hold the lock button with one hand and tighten or loosen the nut by turning the disk with the other hand.

They don't need to be super-tight to work well.
that's the only way I do it. and probably why I lost the wrench haha. just one time the thing was rusted or the nut was put on with a 3 foot pipe wrench haha.

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