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Old 10-09-2012, 07:07 PM   #1
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I borrowed a friend's Bostitch framing nailer for a fence job last week and found that his model could also handle the shorter paper bound 1 1/2" nails, in addition to full size framing nails..

Does anybody know if any of the Paslode or Hitachi corded models can do the same? We have to attach 600 pickets to another fence Monday and the longer nails are too long for the horizontal cross member that the pickets are attached to.

I'd really like to buy a Paslode or a Hitachi by Monday.
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Can you get a siding gun?
I guess I could, yes, but I gotta say, being able to nail the horizontal cross-members with the full-size nails, then switching to the short nails for the pickets without having to own two guns is pretty convenient.

Just was hoping to find something like that in one of the brands I'm set on.


I didn't know there was a special nailer for siding. Can they handle longer nails, too, by any chance?
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I have the paslode f350s air gun. It will take down to 2" nails. I acctually just did a decent size stick built fence and used 2" nails and it worked real good. But then again my pickets were a real 3/4" and the stringers were 2x4's



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I have the paslode f350s air gun. It will take down to 2" nails. I acctually just did a decent size stick built fence and used 2" nails and it worked real good. But then again my pickets were a real 3/4" and the stringers were 2x4's



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Thanks, that actually helps a lot. The pickets we use a lot are 5/8" thick, and we frequently are going into a vertically-oriented 2x4, so actually 2" would work out just fine, with an eighth inch to spare, as long as the nails didn't counter-sink.

I just have too many problems with that Bostich jamming up every few shots, and double-shooting a lot, no matter what we try to do with it or how careful we are with it. I'm thinking Paslode is the way.

Anybody have any knowledge of the Hitachi models in terms of short nails?
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How about a coil framer. IIRC, the Bostich will shoot 1 1/2 and also siding nails.

I believe this is a list of all the nails it shoots.

http://www.bostitch.com/default.asp?...rtnumber=N80CB

I loved mine. It was heavy, but reliable.
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Thanks, that actually helps a lot. The pickets we use a lot are 5/8" thick, and we frequently are going into a vertically-oriented 2x4, so actually 2" would work out just fine, with an eighth inch to spare, as long as the nails didn't counter-sink.

I forgot to mention I did angle the gun a little bit too just in case so there was no chance of any nail points sticking out.


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Thanks, that actually helps a lot. The pickets we use a lot are 5/8" thick, and we frequently are going into a vertically-oriented 2x4, so actually 2" would work out just fine, with an eighth inch to spare, as long as the nails didn't counter-sink.

I just have too many problems with that Bostich jamming up every few shots, and double-shooting a lot, no matter what we try to do with it or how careful we are with it. I'm thinking Paslode is the way.

Anybody have any knowledge of the Hitachi models in terms of short nails?
My paslode shoots 8's really well and has a depth adjustment. I think my Hitachi is supposed to shoot them, but jams all the time. Probably has a worn nail stop/driver /feeder shoe
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Anybody have any knowledge of the Hitachi models in terms of short nails?
My nr90ad takes 3 1/2 down to 2 inch nails.
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Our Max stick nailer onsite uses 2 1/4 to 3 1/2 thirty degree nails that are on strips or wired, maybe take a look into that brand. I will try to remember to get the model number tomorrow if you are interested.
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Our Max stick nailer onsite uses 2 1/4 to 3 1/2 thirty degree nails that are on strips or wired, maybe take a look into that brand. I will try to remember to get the model number tomorrow if you are interested.
I appreciate it, but 2 1/4 would be too long. The nails can't stick out the other side when we shoot through 1 1/2" 2x4, plus a 5/8" picket. So nothing longer than 2", ideally.
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Quick update for anybody in a similar situation:

I bought a used Hitachi NV83A coil framing nailer. It's an older model, and it's not supposed to be handling nails smaller than 2", but I bought some 1 5/8" siding nails at .992 diameter, and loaded 'em up.

We shot over 3,000 nails through this gun in the last two days, and I had ZERO jams, misfires, or double-fires.

We also switched back and forth between full-size framing nails and the shorter siding nails and had no problems whatsoever.

I can't say enough about the gun, as much as it pains me to so heartily endorse something not even remotely made in the United States.
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I didn't know there was a special nailer for siding. Can they handle longer nails, too, by any chance?
A little late to the conversation, but most siding guns shoot nails ranging from 1 1/4" (5d) to 2 1/2" (8d).

Bostitch & Hitachi both make coil siders that shoot up to a 3" (10d) nails, however.
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A little late to the conversation, but most siding guns shoot nails ranging from 1 1/4" (5d) to 2 1/2" (8d).

Bostitch & Hitachi both make coil siders that shoot up to a 3" (10d) nails, however.
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Quick update for anybody in a similar situation:

I bought a used Hitachi NV83A coil framing nailer. It's an older model, and it's not supposed to be handling nails smaller than 2", but I bought some 1 5/8" siding nails at .992 diameter, and loaded 'em up.

We shot over 3,000 nails through this gun in the last two days, and I had ZERO jams, misfires, or double-fires.

We also switched back and forth between full-size framing nails and the shorter siding nails and had no problems whatsoever.

I can't say enough about the gun, as much as it pains me to so heartily endorse something not even remotely made in the United States.
siding nails through a coil framer? this just makes me smile.. i love the 83a, it is the most reliable, fastest framing nailer i've used. we used these when framing in florida for a few years. they seem to shoot nails when other stick nailers won't (when the compressor temporarily looses air pressure trying to keep up) and all the way up to 3 1/2".. full 16's and even case hardened 2 1/2's into the slab, works like a dream. i've seen them survive numerous drops to concrete, even from 30 + feet.... never tried shorter nails through mine, but i cant wait to try because i was just about to buy a siding gun.

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