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Old 05-17-2019, 10:00 PM   #1
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As I get more into building cabinets and what not, I really need to upgrade from using my portable makita. I just don't know if I should go full cabinet saw, or go with a hybrid saw.

I don't necessarily need a massive rip table to go with it, but I would like the following:
Quality
Ability to add a router insert
Ability to add on to if needed in the future
Under $1000, used is fine
Some manuverability (wife still hopes to park in the garage again someday)

I have a panel in my garage, so I can run 110 or 220 to the saw without any issue.

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Old 05-17-2019, 10:39 PM   #2
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I think the under a grand part is going to make it hard unless you plan on doing repairs. I have a Jet and a Delta Unisaw, 3HP. Got the Jet for $700 because I was the one using the saw for the most part when I bought it off the owner. The Unisaw, new, was about $2500 with the wheel kit and side table. Now I have them joined in a unit much bigger than you'd probably want.






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Yeah, I think that might be a bit big for my garage lol, it's only about 26x28

I've seen a couple deltas and grizzly saws online, most stuff seems to be the "contractor" or hybrid series, not cabinet saws

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As I get more into building cabinets and what not, I really need to upgrade from using my portable makita. I just don't know if I should go full cabinet saw, or go with a hybrid saw.

I don't necessarily need a massive rip table to go with it, but I would like the following:
Quality
Ability to add a router insert
Ability to add on to if needed in the future
Under $1000, used is fine
Some manuverability (wife still hopes to park in the garage again someday)

I have a panel in my garage, so I can run 110 or 220 to the saw without any issue.

Thoughts/ recommendations?
You're already at the starter grade, the upgrade IS to a cabinetsaw... 3HP minimum, 5HP better... you'll not regret going from the portable to the cabinetsaw... throw it on a movable base, and you're good to go...



I don't know if it's still available, but this guy is selling pretty much the setup you're looking for... charge it to the next 4-5 customer(s) jobs... it's where ALL your tool money should come from...

https://cnj.craigslist.org/tls/d/col...872418869.html


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That is a nice set up, I'd need to purge my garage before I could even think of getting that in there

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I bought a new Steel City a few years back from Woodcraft and have been very happy with it.

I do not run a full blown cabinet shop but it performs well for what I do.

The only regret is that I only got the 1.75HP version. I quickly learned I should have spent the extra $$ for the 3HP. I did switch the motor to 220 and it made a difference even though everyone said it would not.

I paid around $1,200 and the 3hp was about $300 more.

I have a Dewalt jobsite saw and the cabinet saw is significantly better.

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No comparison between a shop saw and a job saw. Do yourself a favor and buy a used SLR and forego the table saw. I wish I would have, now I dont have any room for an SLR.

Also buying a used 3 phase saw is usually worth it. I have a 7.5hp 10-12" PM70 and it's nice being able to put a 12" blade on it for thick material. If you buy something slightly better than a job saw you won't notice a huge difference. Fire up something with 5 or more real horses and it handles really dense stock with big cuts and it's no problem...
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An SLR is a production machine. I have very little use for one. If you have a molder then it's a must.
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Go cabinet saw. Those contractor saws suck just as much as a portable. Or get a nice portable saw and put it on a Rousseau table. But, still doesn’t compare to a cabinet saw.
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Keep watching craigslist and the like. I had just watched this silly video last night, and it got me thinking about tables saws myself.

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I think the under a grand part is going to make it hard unless you plan on doing repairs. I have a Jet and a Delta Unisaw, 3HP. Got the Jet for $700 because I was the one using the saw for the most part when I bought it off the owner. The Unisaw, new, was about $2500 with the wheel kit and side table. Now I have them joined in a unit much bigger than you'd probably want.





I can buy that saw used all day long for under $500 in online auctions. Watched several of them sale for $350 each last week. One of them was a powermatic.
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Wouldn't sell them for that if I was starving.
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Got a used Grizzly cabinet saw from an ad in the Princeton Packet.


Actually pretty heavy duty, especially for the $200 I got it for.


Had tags on it like it came from a storage auction.
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I can buy that saw used all day long for under $500 in online auctions. Watched several of them sale for $350 each last week. One of them was a powermatic.
I got my PM70 for 750. It was beat up but all the parts were there and it worked so I let my kids have fun painting it.
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An SLR is a production machine. I have very little use for one. If you have a molder then it's a must.
A molder needs a gang rip, SLR is too slow to constantly feed a molder with. When I was around an SLR all the time I realized how often it is that you actually use the table saw like a SLR. You'd still need a table saw for dado's and oddball cross cuts, but I bet you'd fire up the SLR 75% of the time.
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We got this several years back for $250 from a local business that bought another business and didn't have the room for it. Came with the whole outfeed setup. It also had an overhead dust collection and safety shroud we don't use. It was an upgrade from a Delta Contractor saw. Big difference and so smooth. I can't imagine not having it now.
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It's sort of like folks unloading pianos and pool tables, I guess.
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We got this several years back for $250 from a local business that bought another business and didn't have the room for it. Came with the whole outfeed setup. It also had an overhead dust collection and safety shroud we don't use. It was an upgrade from a Delta Contractor saw. Big difference and so smooth. I can't imagine not having it now.
I think those unisaws work with a biesemeyer fence. You can find them cheap and it's a huge upgrade you wouldn't think would matter that much. I need to build a proper out feed table at some point but it ain't happening till I get a new bigger shop.
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I think those unisaws work with a biesemeyer fence. You can find them cheap and it's a huge upgrade you wouldn't think would matter that much. I need to build a proper out feed table at some point but it ain't happening till I get a new bigger shop.
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That's a Delta Uni Fence he's got on that saw. And it has a lot of advantages over a Biesemeyer fence. I have both and the main tablesaw has the Biesemeyer fence on it. The main problem with it is it's to short in front of the blade. With the Uni Fence you can position the fence where you want it. When you are pushing full sheets of plywood into the saw it's nice to have another 6" of fence in front of the blade. The Biesemeyer fence basically has the minimum required to push full sheets.

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