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Old 01-09-2019, 09:04 PM   #1
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Recommend Small Wire Feed Welder...


110v, wire feed.

have always wanted one.

just for odds and ends personal stuff, recreation...

1/4" steel max to weld

welding never been in my wheelhouse, always been around pro fabricators when i needed anything welded.
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:54 PM   #2
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Re: Recommend Small Wire Feed Welder...


I have a Clarke not sure of model # but it has fit my needs very well
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Re: Recommend Small Wire Feed Welder...


The small 110 Lincoln ones are good ,I have an old 135 works pretty good shielded or gas. The little ones are ok , but IMO don't weld like the bigger 220 units. The auto helmet is a must.
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Re: Recommend Small Wire Feed Welder...


I'm not a welder either. Anything of any consequence, truck hitches, trailer repairs, I have a welder friend of mine that can fix everything but the "break of day."

I bought this little wire feed for a project I had to do last Summer, weld some pipe attachments to steel plate and install by welding rebar stakes to the back of the plate for a landscape border.

It is a wire feed but you must use the flux core wire, it can not be used with gas. Some that are similar can use both flux core and gas shielded.

This welder worked fine for what I was doing, it leaves a bit more splatter than I would like and probably more than a gas shield setup. I ran probably 4 or 5 2 pound spools through it and had no issues.

Could run it off a small generator, is light enough to move around easily.

For the money, (about $200), and my use it worked just fine, I have a better machine in the shop, but it's a 240 volt buzz box and not so portable.

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For a little more money you can get one with gas if you need that.
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Re: Recommend Small Wire Feed Welder...


i can see this is not as easy or cheap as i thought it might be...

does wire need to be stored like rod?
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i can see this is not as easy or cheap as i thought it might be...

does wire need to be stored like rod?
I don't think the wire needs to be stored specially, you can feed a few inches out and cut it off I suppose if it gets funky from being around damp conditions. I wouldn't think it will spoil the whole spool.

If you were around here, you could take mine and try it out.
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Re: Recommend Small Wire Feed Welder...


Mine has the gas option but I have never used it.
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Even MIG welding isn't cheap. I think my argon bottle and regulator ran $175. Forget what the Lincoln Electric 140 ran. Then there are the helmet, gloves, clamps, etc, etc.

Don't forget the cart.

Don't expect to do much better than 3/16" on a 140.

Set aside $1000, and you'll have money left over. Set aside $500, and you'll probably be short.

If you just want to weld something, grab a couple of truck batteries and jumper cables. You still need everything else, but you can mess around with stick welding in a small way at 24V DC.
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Aluminum welding uses straight argon, steel welding usually uses argon with 10% CO2 to reduce spatter.
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If you want to mig aluminum straight argon is needed and a spool gun attached to a mig welder is the way to go


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Re: Recommend Small Wire Feed Welder...


if you have a 240 volts where you will be welding get a 240 volt welder even if you dont really need one that size
might cost a few hundred more dollars, but they weld much better
I have both sizes, a Lincoln 140(120v), and a Lincoln 180(240v)
no matter what I want to weld I would choose the 180 everytime if I have 240v available to plug into
both are gas welders
gas makes a much nicer looking weld, only need flux core wire if you will be welding outdoors

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110v, wire feed.

have always wanted one.

just for odds and ends personal stuff, recreation...

1/4" steel max to weld

welding never been in my wheelhouse, always been around pro fabricators when i needed anything welded.
You're going to have to step up to a 220 volt machine if you want to weld 1/4" material. Miller is pretty much top dog as far as machines, but Lincoln and Hobart are also good choices.
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I'm not a welder either. Anything of any consequence, truck hitches, trailer repairs, I have a welder friend of mine that can fix everything but the "break of day."

I bought this little wire feed for a project I had to do last Summer, weld some pipe attachments to steel plate and install by welding rebar stakes to the back of the plate for a landscape border.

It is a wire feed but you must use the flux core wire, it can not be used with gas. Some that are similar can use both flux core and gas shielded.

This welder worked fine for what I was doing, it leaves a bit more splatter than I would like and probably more than a gas shield setup. I ran probably 4 or 5 2 pound spools through it and had no issues.

Could run it off a small generator, is light enough to move around easily.

For the money, (about $200), and my use it worked just fine, I have a better machine in the shop, but it's a 240 volt buzz box and not so portable.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1



For a little more money you can get one with gas if you need that.
I have a Honda 7000 gen and I have to run my Lincoln 135 on the 30 amp plug to not trip the breaker and even then I don't get the weld I would with a land line. Startup amps is a killer on welders.
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Re: Recommend Small Wire Feed Welder...


Seperate 30A breaker in the garage for the welder as well. GFIs required by code for garage outlets, but this is an exception.

Edit - I'll double check the breaker today if I remember, but I'm pretty sure my electrician said 30A.

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Seperate 30A breaker in the garage for the welder as well. GFIs required by code for garage outlets, but this is an exception.

Edit - I'll double check the breaker today if I remember, but I'm pretty sure my electrician said 30A.
Mine will run just fine on a 20amp landline.
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Mine will run just fine on a 20amp landline.
My electrician would overkill something like this. No real added cost.
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Have you thought about going with a stick welder instead of wire feed?

Little easier to use, and a little cheaper.
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I grew up using millermatic 250s and bigger. The Hobart welders have really impressed me for what they cost.

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I have a Lincoln, it has a better duty cycle than a lot of the cheaper ones, but it's still less than 33%. I prefer plain wire wire with C35 shielding gas as opposed to flux core, it makes cleaner looking welds.

I still use my 240 volt machine for almost everything though, it has a 100% duty cycle.

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