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Old 02-26-2013, 08:21 PM   #61
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Festool, metaphorically speaking, is simply the rich kid on the block that many like to ridicule, but most aspire to be.

Money not withstanding, I'm sure we'd all be packed to the gills with the green machines because quite frankly, quality and efficiency is second to none.

Not trying to bone anyone here and I'm not saying you gotta go green to be a pro at what you do - first and foremost, it's always been,... "It ain't the arrow, it's the Indian" philosophy for me. Chit, going back over thirty years for me now in trades and before I ever heard of Festool, I was already implementing and jury rigging track saw and vacuum assist techniques and maneuvers. And, I'm sure I speak for many here when I say that.

Just saying, Festool does it right when it comes to quality, efficiency and innovation. Isn't this really what we all aspire to be?

I think it's about time some put aside their old school pride and watch some cool videos - that should get the koolaid flowing

Sorry no VHS or betamax here, just little ole' YouTube

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Old 02-26-2013, 08:29 PM   #62
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We have the same discussion about trucks.
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I just use a 8' level and two quick clamps if I need a perfect cut.
But can you repeat as quick as anyone using the rail and guides? Once maybe, twice not a chance and every other time after more time is saved.

For all those that buy the Festool products and turn out shoddy work are the lesser craftsman.

Some of these power saw compared to a hand saw analogy is a little too excessive IMO.

I remember starting out wanting to own a Makita circular saw. This is 23 years ago I had a yard sale yellowy orange black and decker with a 5' cord and not enough power to cut stair notches in stringers. So when I bought a Makita I remember right away the betterment of my work and a more efficient manner as a result.

When I wanted to pick it back up this winter I went out and bought what I felt was the best tool I could afford. They sit by themselves in my basement ready for my next project not seen by anybody. FYI my basement is heated and dry.

Do we not want our customers to buy the best they can afford? Of course we do.
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Some of these power saw compared to a hand saw analogy is a little too excessive IMO.
Thank you.
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It may seem over the top, but the analogy stems from the title "where our trade is headed"--- I'm sure the old timers back in the day were muttering under their breath when power tools first came out, blaming the guys that bought them for being elitists. But alas, history repeats itself.
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Well 4 pages of my tools as good as your green tool

I WANT more Green tools!
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Thank you.
Is that you using the makita beam saw in the avatar? Why use that when you can use a smaller saw and cut it on both sides?
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I personally am encouraged about where the trades are headed by being able to share ideas here rather than at the end of a bar..not that i have anything against bars
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Is that you using the makita beam saw in the avatar? Why use that when you can use a smaller saw and cut it on both sides?
Yes, it is.

24' long 5"x 9" parallams...

...got it Barri.

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I personally am encouraged about where the trades are headed by being able to share ideas here rather than at the end of a bar..not that i have anything against bars
Tom It's 3 min. to 5 o'clock here
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.not that i have anything against bars
Elitist!
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I'm sure i learned alot in bars but dam if i can remember
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I just use a 8' level and two quick clamps if I need a perfect cut.
since the OP was likely referencing my joyous activities yesterday, I'll chime in

I've been wanting some Festool products for a 2-3 years now, but I started off as jlsconstruction did...using a 3" 8' piece of aluminum angle and two clamps for a straight edge cut in my early days. Only thing is, it wasn't that perfect.

After taking the plunge for a Dremel tool (the oscilating type) b/c I didn't want to shell out the extra $$ for the Fein MultiMaster, I used the Dremel for 2 years and grumbling about the underperforming tool before finally buying the Fein for a special job and I'm kicking myself for making life so hard on myself for not getting it sooner.

While this classification may not be accurate for all, I would describe the Festool owner as the type of craftsman that is always trying to achieve the best-installation that is. Going above and beyond is how I describe my attempt at finish work-it's also how I sell myself to the prospective clients. On one occasion, a prospective client viewed my work van (a Mercedes ) and commented on seeing how orderly and organized my van was that my work would likely be completed in a similar manner.

First day out using the Kapex and CT26-maybe a 1/4 cup of (large) dust was on the floor under the Kapex-the rest was in the CT26-cutting inside a house is a God send compared to how I use to HAVE to setup outside-in and out = time and time is money!

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