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Old 01-22-2010, 03:53 PM   #1
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Have you guys seen Senco's new tools? They are new cordless. All battery powered which uses nitrogen to drive the nail. The nitrogen is re-compressed over and over. What do you think. Fine home Building has a quick spot on it.

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Would you buy one?
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Old 01-22-2010, 04:12 PM   #2
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I really dont know, I just bought a Bostitch Trim Air Compressor for my Dewalt finish nailer and Bostitch brad nailer, so I may never own a cordless finish nailer. What a cordless finish nailer cost you can buy a small compressor and finish nailer for the price they is going to you.

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i saw the blog on these guns of fhb a month or so ago. if memory serves correct senco is still tweaking them so they are keeping the technology extremly quit so that other manufacturers cant jump on the bandwagon before they come out
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Very interesting, thanks for the info... I'll need to get a closer look and hopefully try them out first, but if they work as well as advertised I'll probably get both the 15 ga and 18 ga. It's good to see Senco making a comeback!
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Looks like they are using nitrogen gas rams like some air rifles have in them. They are basicly using the gas ram as a enegry store for each shot then after the shot the motor resets the gas ram ready for the next shot. Nothing new as in tech being used but new for a nail gun.
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Interesting. Wonder if they can do this with framers?

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Interesting. Wonder if they can do this with framers?

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No way will that produce enough power to drive a spike. Does anybody remember the "Bammer" that porter cable made? I predict that this will end up the same way. I think we have come to a serious bump in the road with cordless tools. We know they have some serious limitations that the haven't been able to overcome in 25 years.
I have seen the future and it is corded.
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Too negative...
Of course they won't work. Its ridiculous, just like those guns using internal combustion like a mini engine? Or like those silly ones with a spinning flywheel and a clutch?
Just kidding of course, but I'm sure the Paslode Impulse and DeWalt cordless sounded stupid at the time of release. Granted they have disadvantages , but they are great tools.
Maybe this will be a little better than both, doesn't mean it has to replace air nailers for framing houses.
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I had the chance today to use the new senco fusion 15 gauge cordless nailer. Nice gun! I think I can get used to the balance, not a sweet as my air powered hitachi, but Odd hearing that "rewind" sound it makes, but it slams the nails in just fine. Interesting jamb clearing feature, the magazine comes off of the gun with a lever - quick! I forgot to ask the guy if it also has the anti-dry fire feature.

$550!!!! and will not be avail. till mid July or August in my area. I think its a nice gun but at $550? its $200 bucks high.

maybe if I win the lottery tonight LOL


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No way will that produce enough power to drive a spike. Does anybody remember the "Bammer" that porter cable made? I predict that this will end up the same way. I think we have come to a serious bump in the road with cordless tools. We know they have some serious limitations that the haven't been able to overcome in 25 years.
I have seen the future and it is corded.
Hey Warren I can picture your ancestors at Kitty Hawk, NC in 1903 shouting "if man were meant to fly, he'd have wings".
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Hey Warren I can picture your ancestors at Kitty Hawk, NC in 1903 shouting "if man were meant to fly, he'd have wings".
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anyone try the new Bostitch cordless nailers yet?
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IMO, Paslode has and will lead the pack in cordless technology. I know people have a notion that the fumes are an issue on interior work. I installed over 150' of crown in this house, with an Impulse gun. 3/4 of the way through, the homeowner walks in. I asked him if the fumes were a problem. He replied "What fumes?"
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Hey Warren I can picture your ancestors at Kitty Hawk, NC in 1903 shouting "if man were meant to fly, he'd have wings".
Trust me Bud, I am all about innovation. I love new technology and come up with great ideas all the time. Are they all feasible? Of course not, but that never stops me from thinking up new ones. I have been around the block a few times and had my hopes dashed when new technologies did not come through. I will be glad to be wrong on this one.
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I got to try one out at the wood working show recently. Our local Senco dealer had a booth there. Not a bad gun at all, when I was done using it I asked when they thought they might have the driver for my 6 shooter that the've had over a month.........If you use a tool on a regular basis it will break or need service, I'm not interested in paying that much for a tool to sit on their shelf waiting for parts, and Senco is out of parts, and there won't be any after market parts for these guns for quite some time, if ever.
Off original subject, but a couple months ago I purchased 2 Ridgid cordless finish guns. I'm not a huge Ridgid fan but have to say they work great.
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Those older Senco battery guns were almost as bad as the PC. I would wait to see haw this plays out. the gas technoligy is very good now with the addition of lighter weight better performing LiI batteries. This is a perfect application for such a battery as it has low current demands and will stay charged a long time and weighs much less The 3.6v batts are not as expensive either.
My newer Hitachi [no ugly alien green ,made in Taiwan]15gaDA style w. the Paslode yellow small can's and Li I batt. that holds the chg. for months and will fire 1k or more on a single chg. It better than my Impulse gun. Very light weight, no issues. The battery lasts 10 times the Paslode NiCd that will go dead in 1 mo. even if not used[ I hardly use it now that I have the Hitachi.]. One of the best buys I have ever made. Came w. a free Li screwdriver and 3rd battery. Got it from Reconditionedsales.com[great people], bought a recon. but it was actually just a new/repackage due to the added screwdriver deal I heard, they had open them to put them in the cases. Looking to add a 18ga too.
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IMO, Paslode has and will lead the pack in cordless technology. I know people have a notion that the fumes are an issue on interior work. I installed over 150' of crown in this house, with an Impulse gun. 3/4 of the way through, the homeowner walks in. I asked him if the fumes were a problem. He replied "What fumes?"
I am 100% with you on this.
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No way will that produce enough power to drive a spike. Does anybody remember the "Bammer" that porter cable made? I predict that this will end up the same way. I think we have come to a serious bump in the road with cordless tools. We know they have some serious limitations that the haven't been able to overcome in 25 years.
I have seen the future and it is corded.
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Hey Warren I can picture your ancestors at Kitty Hawk, NC in 1903 shouting "if man were meant to fly, he'd have wings".
What's interesting is, airplanes still fall from the sky on occasion. There have been many design flaws along the way as well.
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For nice finished houses that want to add trim like lone just showed, I use my paslode 16 or 18 ga. nailers. The last thing I need is a hose being pulled through a house. someone stepping on it, falling etc. or worse, it pulling something over and breaking valuables.

for new work, air all the way.
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For nice finished houses that want to add trim like lone just showed, I use my paslode 16 or 18 ga. nailers. The last thing I need is a hose being pulled through a house. someone stepping on it, falling etc. or worse, it pulling something over and breaking valuables.

for new work, air all the way.

True, but the answer is to have them remove said items from the work area prior to your start date...

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