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Old 10-31-2016, 07:21 AM   #21
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They have a universal key to all those locks, it's called bolt cutters
It's like the old saying that locks only keep honest people honest. If someone wants something bad enough they will find a way to get it. I've seen locks cut, gang box locks drilled out, trailer hinges cut with cordless angle grinder, etc.

It's a balancing act keeping between keeping tools secure and keeping them convenient to use. In this case I'm not so much trying to keep the saw from being sold. Just don't like others using it cutting who knows what when I have an expensive blade on it. When I cut a piece of wood I check for nails and anything else that can damage the blade. Then the plumber or electrician or whoever will come along and find a scrap piece of 2x that was cut out from somewhere still with nails in it and zip it off with my saw. That is what I want to prevent when I'm not around.
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Old 10-31-2016, 07:25 AM   #22
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It's like the old saying that locks only keep honest people honest. If someone wants something bad enough they will find a way to get it. I've seen locks cut, gang box locks drilled out, trailer hinges cut with cordless angle grinder, etc.

It's a balancing act keeping between keeping tools secure and keeping them convenient to use. In this case I'm not so much trying to keep the saw from being sold. Just don't like others using it cutting who knows what when I have an expensive blade on it. When I cut a piece of wood I check for nails and anything else that can damage the blade. Then the plumber or electrician or whoever will come along and find a scrap piece of 2x that was cut out from somewhere still with nails in it and zip it off with my saw. That is what I want to prevent when I'm not around.
Even I'm guilty of it, if I see a miter saw setup on site and I need to cut a piece of scrap to space out an electrical box I grab the concrete encrusted 2x4 buried in mud and toss is up on the carpenter's brand new saw that he left unlocked. Now if it was locked down with a cable I'd probably walk 25 feet to me truck for my own saw...
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Even I'm guilty of it, if I see a miter saw setup on site and I need to cut a piece of scrap to space out an electrical box I grab the concrete encrusted 2x4 buried in mud and toss is up on the carpenter's brand new saw that he left unlocked. Now if it was locked down with a cable I'd probably walk 25 feet to me truck for my own saw...
I guess. Even if it was a cheap ryobi miter saw, I would still not do it to another guys saw set up.

To me its just **ed up to use other peoples tools with out given permission. Even for the littlest thing. Brooms I am ok with taking for a bit with out asking as long as you give them back lol.
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Same here. Trailer comes home with me every day as well. I know it's less convenient, but it's certainly more convenient than showing up to a job where my tools are damaged or gone. Only exceptions are limited items left in occupied homes.
I have forgotten things before......over $200 I drive back, under $200 I don't sleep well and get to the job site extra early.
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This isnt theft. This is unauthorized use. If they wanted it, they would have taken it. Gang box is only partially an answer. Those of us who use systainers, tuff boxes, etc... you don't fit many into a box. (though I thought I did see a tuff box gang box).

Anyways, one saw would be a box. Its just too bulky. I see subs chain down their saws all the time. I haven't seen any defacing. Pretty much common practice. Its usually the other subs that are too lazy to bring up a saw (especially in a highrise or it takes 20 min to get back to the truck), the'll look around for convenient tools.
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I don't leave none of the tools behind, not even a cordless screwgun.Period. It takes a minute to put away and a minute to take out.

I don't know what is going on in that house after I am gone, who comes who goes, what the kids do, etc... Anyone gets hurt with a power tool I left behind its on me.

That being said, saw stands, etc I will take it apart and put everything in the corner and set everything back up when I get there...
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I don't leave none of the tools behind, not even a cordless screwgun.Period. It takes a minute to put away and a minute to take out.

I don't know what is going on in that house after I am gone, who comes who goes, what the kids do, etc... Anyone gets hurt with a power tool I left behind its on me.

That being said, saw stands, etc I will take it apart and put everything in the corner and set everything back up when I get there...
Yeah... Takes a minute to unload and setup and a min to pack up and load out... Sure thing.

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If we're talking about 1-2 tools being left out in an area that others have access to it, seems to me that it would save you the aggravation of even having to think about it as an issues by packing it up... either way, you have to close it down before you lock it up, and you have to go to the truck anyway...

If it's more than 1-2 tools in an area that others have access to, who the heck wants to spend time locking up all their tools on a job-site where they will be out in the open anyway and have to deal with all the keys that come with those locks, when as pointed out earlier, the ones who WANT to use it are going to anyway and use the universal key (it is a construction site) to do so because THEY don't want to go their truck to get their saw...
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Yeah... Takes a minute to unload and setup and a min to pack up and load out... Sure thing.

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Setting up and breaking down can be 45 minutes to an hour a day for me. Especially if parking isn't close. I sped things up a lot by using my rolling box of tools. But there's still lots of things that can't be put in there. Plus it weighs 106 lbs now.
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Even I'm guilty of it, if I see a miter saw setup on site and I need to cut a piece of scrap to space out an electrical box I grab the concrete encrusted 2x4 buried in mud and toss is up on the carpenter's brand new saw that he left unlocked. Now if it was locked down with a cable I'd probably walk 25 feet to me truck for my own saw...
You would ruin my day if you did that to my saw. Nothing like cutting dirt and rock with a nice $100 blade.
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Knock on wood...we are in a great area and mostly work with subs we know. Right now we have tools all over our current build. The place is locked at night. No way I could breakdown every day and make any money.
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People that use my stuff, make me very angry. I've tried to brainstorm some ideas for keeping people away from my tools, but I've only resorted to writing signs. I was thinking of spreading dog shlt, on the backside of cords, maybe even on the handle.
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People that use my stuff, make me very angry. I've tried to brainstorm some ideas for keeping people away from my tools, but I've only resorted to writing signs. I was thinking of spreading dog shlt, on the backside of cords, maybe even on the handle.
Would that stop you from using it?...
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Knock on wood...we are in a great area and mostly work with subs we know. Right now we have tools all over our current build. The place is locked at night. No way I could breakdown every day and make any money.
All it takes is one person...I was the same way until someone loaded up $5k worth of stuff in one fowl swoop.

Its most dangerous on homes in the country that are not very visible. I still leave my miter saw, table saw, and vacs setup. But I run cable trough them so they can't just walk off.

You are right, I loose an hour a day just to loading and unloading tools everyday. I'd be way ahead if I didn't have to worry about it. But in new construction in a city its tough.
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Plus it weighs 106 lbs now.
Years ago I used a former ambulance that had a wheelchair lift. Hundreds of pounds on wheels was a piece of cake, plus the hitop was pretty nice.
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LMAO you people are nut to even think about spreading dog s^*t around your cords.

I remember in the old days when I owned a junkyard, we would put
D-Con in a scotch bottle and leave that in the office incase some crack head decides to pay a visit.

That being said, I agree with Leo, if you setting up the whole workshop on the jobsite, etc it definitely worth to have a lockbox... But if you working with a chop saw and a few other power tools, it's really not a big deal to put them away and take it out the next day. I personally love doing that, I consider that a nice morning exercise. Nothing like a good warmup before you start working.

Of course I can see why for some a few feet of cable and a bunch of keys would be a more preferable way of doing this, especially if someone is out of shape, that can be an issue.
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Setting up and breaking down can be 45 minutes to an hour a day for me. Especially if parking isn't close. I sped things up a lot by using my rolling box of tools. But there's still lots of things that can't be put in there. Plus it weighs 106 lbs now.
Specifically when it's on the 20th floor 2 blocks away.
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Specifically when it's on the 20th floor 2 blocks away.
I'm sure the OP had residential dwelling in mind and you jumped on the 20th floor .

If that's the case,around here when you work in buildings 10-100 floors, guys come to work by train. They have boxes loaded with tools and they use cranes to move them from one floor to another.
My buddy is a union carpenter in the city, he has a box size of my truck on the jobsite.
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most 20 story building jobs in the city for remodel is locked up, and new construction has 24 hour guard. NOt saying I'd leave anything, but a gang box + chaining up is usually sufficient.
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I get it. Should be able to leave you tools set-up w/out some idiot using them. I had this problem before. two solutions
1) pad lock the cord near the plug end to the saw handle
2) drill out the plug neutral tab to accept a mini luggage lock

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