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Old 04-03-2016, 01:15 PM   #2361
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Onboard bathroom is a new one on here i think.
We keep an empty coffee can in ours, works good enough.
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I have been thinking of getting rid of the large trailer and the big diesel truck and going to one of the tall and long sprinter vans. Probably keep a smaller trailer to keep the tools we only use on extended kitchen and bathroom remodeling projects that we can leave on site.

The only hold up is that we roll a dump trailer from job to job and it has more than paid for itself so I would still need a bigger truck to move that around.

im kinda getting tired of hauling around the big trailer even to the smallest of punch list repairs or the like. Something appealing about driving the majority of your tools in a nice organized van.

I could be way off,but I would think that a sprinter type van would pull a dump trailer.
My thinking is a sprinter with a flat bed trailer for lumber and a dump trailer for debris. We usually leave the dump trailer on site until it's full or the job is complete.
Sprinter for tools,trailers for everything else. I think that's the way I want to do it.
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I have been thinking of getting rid of the large trailer and the big diesel truck and going to one of the tall and long sprinter vans. Probably keep a smaller trailer to keep the tools we only use on extended kitchen and bathroom remodeling projects that we can leave on site.

The only hold up is that we roll a dump trailer from job to job and it has more than paid for itself so I would still need a bigger truck to move that around.

im kinda getting tired of hauling around the big trailer even to the smallest of punch list repairs or the like. Something appealing about driving the majority of your tools in a nice organized van.
Similar thinking here. Part of the reason I went truck/trailer was that I wasn't going to be without a truck and I didn't want the overhead expense of two vehicles.

I'm curious what kind of gas mileage these larger transits get loaded down. My truck computer usually says about 9.5-10.5 mpg.
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This is a video of the ramp https://youtu.be/MfT_iGFlSq0

And yeah those portas get outta hand in 110 degree July
I worked on a lake property last summer and had to use the portajon becuase there was no where to take a leak out of sight. I don't know how people can be such slobs. Somehow someone managed to get chit on the top of the lid. I don't even understand how a person could be that dumb.

As far as the ramp. That would definitely save your knees over the long haul.
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We keep an empty coffee can in ours, works good enough.


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Spence. Back to charimon said. You have the p/u cab it it with all trim jobs . duplicate trim packages in trailer along with Reno packages. I saw a very nicely fitted f250 on fog pull out drawer side cap doors very nice easy breezy access. I'll post link when I get min to search.
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with a tall van and a ramp. The system that pops into my mind is work carts. Set up moble work carts that you can roll off the truck and assemble into your cutting tables. with access to your tools by task in a cart you can deploy. by going this way you can go on site unload al your equipment with 4-6 carts have an open van for material transport.
your equipment is
logicallly based
Main cart kit you put the things you use on every job in this cart and design it so you can open the back door of the van drop the ramp and have access to every thing with out pulling it out.
Saw cart- table saw already set up on the cart with table extensions that open to too storage (that 90% of the time will only get used on projects where the table saw is already needed.

Trim cart everythign on this cart that is needed to run base/casing.

Drywall cart. Base this on a Telpro troll roll it into the job lift off the tool boxes and convert the cart to accept panels . . keep your favorite patching knives in the Main kit.
Paint kit..
you get the idea.

cart wheel hack look at about 13 min in.
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here you go...
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with a tall van and a ramp. The system that pops into my mind is work carts. Set up moble work carts that you can roll off the truck and assemble into your cutting tables. with access to your tools by task in a cart you can deploy. by going this way you can go on site unload al your equipment with 4-6 carts have an open van for material transport.
your equipment is
logicallly based
Main cart kit you put the things you use on every job in this cart and design it so you can open the back door of the van drop the ramp and have access to every thing with out pulling it out.
Saw cart- table saw already set up on the cart with table extensions that open to too storage (that 90% of the time will only get used on projects where the table saw is already needed.

Trim cart everythign on this cart that is needed to run base/casing.

Drywall cart. Base this on a Telpro troll roll it into the job lift off the tool boxes and convert the cart to accept panels . . keep your favorite patching knives in the Main kit.
Paint kit..
you get the idea.

cart wheel hack look at about 13 min in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2ow0cbOCHI
Pretty much exactly what I'm planning. And with the Dewalt tough system I just unrack the task kits I need, load them on the dolly and roll out the back door! Also why I chose this ramp was that it can be used as a gang plank..on many of the new homes I work in I can back right up to the front porch and drop the ramp from the van to the front door! I feel like this will save me tons of time and effort throughout the day/weeks/months..it should add up quick. The ramp is 35" wide and 118" long unfolded. It was spendy but Ford was running $1k bonus upfit cash that I was able to apply to it.
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I worked on a lake property last summer and had to use the portajon becuase there was no where to take a leak out of sight. I don't know how people can be such slobs. Somehow someone managed to get chit on the top of the lid. I don't even understand how a person could be that dumb.

As far as the ramp. That would definitely save your knees over the long haul.
yes I don't understand why the others using them constantly trash them??? And the GCs only pay to have them cleaned the bare min. Required which is once a week. Its plain gross most of the time..and we're usually in nicer subdivisions where the next home is only 30' away etc..nowhere to hide lol.. I never would have thought I would be installing a commode in my truck..but ya gotta do what makes your day more enjoyable and productive! My not be a priority for others but where I work its high on the wish list.

Now I can eat whatever I want for lunch! Lol
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a Sprinter will not pull a dump trailer. they are rated for 5k (at least the 2500's).

I'm working on a 2700sf where we took out all doors, base and crown and loaded it into the Sprinter and took it to the dump yesterday-the van was completely full, 2200lbs of debris.
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The ratings for the Transit I have are 6900 towing and 3900 payload..Im not sure if you can do both at the same time though.. But that's the highest rating staying under 10k GVW.. This is on a 350HD extended diesel. Now the ecoboost 6 actually makes a little more power than the diesel.. I would guess the sprinter and promaster are similar numbers in their "1 ton" versions also. I went with the big one simply because I wanted the space.. The cargo area is just under 14' x 70" wide at my shoulder height and is about 6'8/6'10" tall. I'm 5'9 so I can store step ladders on the roof and still walk around.
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It's hard to have an open dialogue with some of you guys when you just attack. This is my last post on here because ya'll are bummin me out. I hope you don't treat your customers like this, because they'd feel the same way.

Ya'll sound like my Dad.

I get it. You have experience. The real point of Toyota's system, is to always be improving. Even if it's the smallest thing you change. And I doubt anyone has done time studies on their processes for preparing for a job. Your efficiency are just perceptions at that point.

But don't listen to me. I'm only 27, my business is 8 months old, and I have the tiniest truck known to man. So I know nothing and cannot bring anything to the table.

Good luck with your endeavors.
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tucansam, First thank you. The fact that you are bringing a fresh point of view that you have given thought to is of great importance to this thread and to the forum as a whole.
Trying to apply Lean, TQM, TOC, 6sigma and other philosophies to the small business contractor is difficult and full of potholes, this in no way means you should stop trying. Often folks on forums fall into a type of group think and need others to challenge them.
With any endeavor refinements to a setup grow in importance as mastery with in your circle of competence deepens. A great example of this is custom framing bag sets. They would be a total waste on me but if i were to redo my basement any pair of bags would be a great help. but for some the benefits are cheap at twice the price.

Finally just as TPS works for Toyota yet fails to bring similar results in other types of manufacturing. There is no single "Best" solution for our tool/jobsite trailers. There are best of class solutions for, tile setters, carpenters, concrete,. . . and these can be demonstrated by the speed and completeness of rollout and setup/teardown.

So keep coming I like your style
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It's hard to have an open dialogue with some of you guys when you just attack. This is my last post on here because ya'll are bummin me out. I hope you don't treat your customers like this, because they'd feel the same way.

Ya'll sound like my Dad.

I get it. You have experience. The real point of Toyota's system, is to always be improving. Even if it's the smallest thing you change. And I doubt anyone has done time studies on their processes for preparing for a job. Your efficiency are just perceptions at that point.

But don't listen to me. I'm only 27, my business is 8 months old, and I have the tiniest truck known to man. So I know nothing and cannot bring anything to the table.

Good luck with your endeavors.
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It's hard to have an open dialogue with some of you guys when you just attack. This is my last post on here because ya'll are bummin me out. I hope you don't treat your customers like this, because they'd feel the same way.

Ya'll sound like my Dad.

I get it. You have experience. The real point of Toyota's system, is to always be improving. Even if it's the smallest thing you change. And I doubt anyone has done time studies on their processes for preparing for a job. Your efficiency are just perceptions at that point.

But don't listen to me. I'm only 27, my business is 8 months old, and I have the tiniest truck known to man. So I know nothing and cannot bring anything to the table.

Good luck with your endeavors.
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Now back to the real discussion.

The sprinters are awesome! My problem is I need four wheel drive, i could not get home most of the time unless I have it. Rain I am mudding and snow, forget about it! My county is horrible on gravel road maintenance.

My other problem is, my debris on smaller things go in the bed of the truck and I really don't want to put garbage inthe back of the van. Even bagged...pulling a small dump trailer seems like it would be a huge pain, especially having to unhook to get tools out.

I really like those sprinters though! The ramp is cool as heck, but at 6'8" I think I would be constantly ducking!
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There is more than one way to skin a cat. These guys have 10, 20, 30+ years experience more than you, It'd be wise to listen.
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It's hard to have an open dialogue with some of you guys when you just attack. This is my last post on here because ya'll are bummin me out. I hope you don't treat your customers like this, because they'd feel the same way.

Ya'll sound like my Dad.

I get it. You have experience. The real point of Toyota's system, is to always be improving. Even if it's the smallest thing you change. And I doubt anyone has done time studies on their processes for preparing for a job. Your efficiency are just perceptions at that point.

But don't listen to me. I'm only 27, my business is 8 months old, and I have the tiniest truck known to man. So I know nothing and cannot bring anything to the table.

Good luck with your endeavors.
First rule of thumb with internet forums is you are going to get all sorts of advice, it's your job to weed through it and pick out the valuable info in the posts. Also need to have thicker skin and not get upset because someone doesn't agree with you 100%.

As for the "best" setup, there is NONE! Everyone of us will have a different "best" setup, what works for one won't work for the next guy. You can pick and choose what will work best for you. But I will say that some guys on here have been doing this for a very long time. That isn't a knock against you because you are new. But you need to realize that guys on here have tried many different setups. And over the years have honed their setups to fit exactly what works best for them. New ideas are great but sometimes when a guy hones his setup to fit his needs and it works great for him there is no reason to change. Doesn't mean his setup is the best for you, and doesn't mean your setup is the best for him.

Me personally I read these threads because I'm a tool whore and like to be organized. I'm always changing my setups. Last year I tried a bunch of things to get more organized as far as toolboxes go. Within the last year I've changed things many times. And I'm sure if you setup a trailer or van like Paulk that you will find things you work great for you and things that don't work at all for you and you will change them. How many times do you think he changed his setup over the years? I read all the ideas and store the ones I like and think will improve my setup. Some ideas I know won't work for me. Doesn't mean it's a bad idea, just means what worked for that guy isn't going to work for me.

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