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Old 11-12-2014, 10:42 PM   #1
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Who has any experience with these? I need a UTV for my shop/house/grove, cattle lease, and when I go to a buddy's shop (15 acres and 4 buildings with only 9 guys).

People want a freaking mint for the traditional Kubota, John Deere, Kawasaki, Polaris, etc side by side utv/atv. I found a japanese minitruck with a dump bed and scissor lift for a nice price, I was just curious... What's the set back.

(My wife's pissed, she wanted a pretty one that said something like "kubota" I just told her I'll wrap it in some sipo and it'll say her name.)
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Who has any experience with these? I need a UTV for my shop/house/grove, cattle lease, and when I go to a buddy's shop (15 acres and 4 buildings with only 9 guys).

People want a freaking mint for the traditional Kubota, John Deere, Kawasaki, Polaris, etc side by side utv/atv. I found a japanese minitruck with a dump bed and scissor lift for a nice price, I was just curious... What's the set back.

(My wife's pissed, she wanted a pretty one that said something like "kubota" I just told her I'll wrap it in some sipo and it'll say her name.)
Parts, Tech/Service manual written in English.

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Parts, Tech/Service manual written in English.
From what I understand their tech/service manual's are just like the English version... manufacturing opinions.

(Sorry I don't remember who came up with that quote but it was fantastic.)

Good point. Could be a bitch to work on without any literature. Pretty simple straight 3, 550cc 4 stroke engine though. It's the hydraulics I worry about. I'm just amazed at the value these little UTV's are holding value at, it seems stupid to me.
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From what I understand their tech/service manual's are just like the English version... manufacturing opinions.

(Sorry I don't remember who came up with that quote but it was fantastic.)

Good point. Could be a bitch to work on without any literature. Pretty simple straight 3, 550cc 4 stroke engine though. It's the hydraulics I worry about. I'm just amazed at the value these little UTV's are holding value at, it seems stupid to me.
Hydraulic shops can make whatever you need for the most part.
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Hydraulic shops can make whatever you need for the most part.
My problem is I'm just not that familiar with the hydraulics. My Dad likes that kind of stuff as he used to be the CEO of a plastics company. He's getting a big kick out of helping me spend money.

The engines are simple, that's why I can't understand why the "UTV's" are double the cost of these mini trucks. With a little time one should be able to figure out the mechanics, don't you agree?

Obviously, I'm kind of sold, its a scissor lift bed and a dump bed with 33 cubic feet where the comparable UTV is like 21 and only dump but a lot more attractive. Let's face it, most of you have seen me in the pictures thread... I ain't going to win any beauty contest.
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I had a link too a place that sells the hell out of them, can't remember but think its in the Midwest.
They lift them wrap them put plows on them.
It's sounds like they have most parts in stock as well

I think I came across them on you tube he's a plow up fitter he had tracks and a vee plow on his google that!!

And hell yea I'd get one of these long before a utv
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Lots of farmers around here bought the mini trucks when they were offered. Not one is still being used. They are not built for 6 foot tall 200# people, and they are used, sometimes well used, most are right hand drive, they may be easy to work on, and chances are they will need to be worked on.

I bought a Ranger, cheapest one, 500cc, basic, and it always works. We run all over 20 acres here, plus drive it to the river 10 miles away. The mini trucks sell for $5000 or so around here, with 20k on the clocks...and the Polaris is$7000 or so...new.
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A few of them around here. Talked to one guy I know and said they don't get that great of MPG for the size. For the money I think I would rather have a older little pickup,
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The dairy bought many of them and found out they don't last and suck in mud and snow.
Like Randy said a small older Toyota 4x4 or S10. you can find a nice s10 4x4 for $2500 or less if you dont need the ac to work.
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I've actually seen Some Toyota sr5s with dump beds on them listed on craigslist here.
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I've actually seen Some Toyota sr5s with dump beds on them listed on craigslist here.
Hopefully not the one's with the bad frames.
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Lots of farmers around here bought the mini trucks when they were offered. Not one is still being used. They are not built for 6 foot tall 200# people, and they are used, sometimes well used, most are right hand drive, they may be easy to work on, and chances are they will need to be worked on.

I bought a Ranger, cheapest one, 500cc, basic, and it always works. We run all over 20 acres here, plus drive it to the river 10 miles away. The mini trucks sell for $5000 or so around here, with 20k on the clocks...and the Polaris is$7000 or so...new.
I pulled the trigger on the mini truck. My grandfather who hates japanese people... (war prejudice) said that was all he liked about them, their little trucks. I couodnt pass it up, 12k miles on it, bodies a bit rough but without rust, all hydro's work and they're simple as well after looking at it today, I stole it for 2500. I have been after a utv for a long time and this is as good or better for my groves out front.

Picking up tomorrow, will post some pics tomorrow night.
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Hopefully not the one's with the bad frames.
Well it was listed on Ohio Craigslist, so it probably was...
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Here is my 2 cents:

I have a Yamaha Rhino, bought brand new in 2007 and have had no problems with it, it is cold blooded and can be tempuramental when it's really cold but always starts. Literally nothing more than oil changes but transmission has started to pop out of gear every once in a while when reversing but nothing serious. This thing has been beat! Runs fences, was used every day for watering/feeding animals, hill climbing running fence lines and even the occassional just playing around. It has been some of the best money spent, a bit tipsy on side hills but a SOLID work horse I seriously could not live without. We have been looking at the new, bigger Yamaha side by sides because the kids are bigger and a 4 seater might be nice but I dont think we would get rid of the current Rhino either, its already soooooo paid for its self.

We also have a 450 Yamaha Grissley ATV that is also a work quad, not a aluminum rim, trail riding a showing off to friends ride, it works and it is small enough to get through the trees, it has a large rear basket, so you can throw chain saws, gas and fencing materials in a go to work. Not a single problem with this machine either.

Now the reason I typed all this is because last year we got 2 of those "cheap" chinese quads for the kids, could not drop $3k (each) on a kids toy that they will out grow. Paid $ 1,500 for a 110cc and 125cc. I was suprised how well they have held up. The 125cc with a 300lb adult (me) on it would do 40mph easy and flat out fly, I have them governed down for the kids . Both of mine are based off the Honda motor and electronics, I was told as the patents ran out on the technology, these companies were mass producing the replicas just without the name brand. Honda parts are the recommended replacements. Getting a good shop, even online, can really help if you need parts later.

There are also a bunch of service manuals and literature for these ATV's based on the engine and most are very similiar. I am not sure I would buy an adult size one for my acreage work but heck, I could save a few thousand and be suprised at how good they are. I had looked at those little 3 wheel trucks based off the Cushman design but my land is too hilly for 3 wheels along with muddy most the time for them to be effective.

So I am curious how well your machine holds up, keep us updated.
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I have a Yamaha Rhino, bought brand new in 2007 and have had no problems with it, it is cold blooded and can be tempuramental when it's really cold but always starts. Literally nothing more than oil changes but transmission has started to pop out of gear every once in a while when reversing but nothing serious. This thing has been beat! Runs fences, was used every day for watering/feeding animals, hill climbing running fence lines and even the occassional just playing around. It has been some of the best money spent, a bit tipsy on side hills but a SOLID work horse I seriously could not live without. We have been looking at the new, bigger Yamaha side by sides because the kids are bigger and a 4 seater might be nice but I dont think we would get rid of the current Rhino either, its already soooooo paid for its self.



We also have a 450 Yamaha Grissley ATV that is also a work quad, not a aluminum rim, trail riding a showing off to friends ride, it works and it is small enough to get through the trees, it has a large rear basket, so you can throw chain saws, gas and fencing materials in a go to work. Not a single problem with this machine either.



Now the reason I typed all this is because last year we got 2 of those "cheap" chinese quads for the kids, could not drop $3k (each) on a kids toy that they will out grow. Paid $ 1,500 for a 110cc and 125cc. I was suprised how well they have held up. The 125cc with a 300lb adult (me) on it would do 40mph easy and flat out fly, I have them governed down for the kids . Both of mine are based off the Honda motor and electronics, I was told as the patents ran out on the technology, these companies were mass producing the replicas just without the name brand. Honda parts are the recommended replacements. Getting a good shop, even online, can really help if you need parts later.



There are also a bunch of service manuals and literature for these ATV's based on the engine and most are very similiar. I am not sure I would buy an adult size one for my acreage work but heck, I could save a few thousand and be suprised at how good they are. I had looked at those little 3 wheel trucks based off the Cushman design but my land is too hilly for 3 wheels along with muddy most the time for them to be effective.



So I am curious how well your machine holds up, keep us updated.

I'm glad you posted this. We're probably getting my son a 110 for Christmas. I've been debating the Chinese for 600 vs a used name brand for a min of 1500. Thanks
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I have a Yamaha Rhino, bought brand new in 2007 and have had no problems with it, it is cold blooded and can be tempuramental when it's really cold but always starts. Literally nothing more than oil changes but transmission has started to pop out of gear every once in a while when reversing but nothing serious. This thing has been beat! Runs fences, was used every day for watering/feeding animals, hill climbing running fence lines and even the occassional just playing around. It has been some of the best money spent, a bit tipsy on side hills but a SOLID work horse I seriously could not live without. We have been looking at the new, bigger Yamaha side by sides because the kids are bigger and a 4 seater might be nice but I dont think we would get rid of the current Rhino either, its already soooooo paid for its self.

We also have a 450 Yamaha Grissley ATV that is also a work quad, not a aluminum rim, trail riding a showing off to friends ride, it works and it is small enough to get through the trees, it has a large rear basket, so you can throw chain saws, gas and fencing materials in a go to work. Not a single problem with this machine either.

Now the reason I typed all this is because last year we got 2 of those "cheap" chinese quads for the kids, could not drop $3k (each) on a kids toy that they will out grow. Paid $ 1,500 for a 110cc and 125cc. I was suprised how well they have held up. The 125cc with a 300lb adult (me) on it would do 40mph easy and flat out fly, I have them governed down for the kids . Both of mine are based off the Honda motor and electronics, I was told as the patents ran out on the technology, these companies were mass producing the replicas just without the name brand. Honda parts are the recommended replacements. Getting a good shop, even online, can really help if you need parts later.

There are also a bunch of service manuals and literature for these ATV's based on the engine and most are very similiar. I am not sure I would buy an adult size one for my acreage work but heck, I could save a few thousand and be suprised at how good they are. I had looked at those little 3 wheel trucks based off the Cushman design but my land is too hilly for 3 wheels along with muddy most the time for them to be effective.

So I am curious how well your machine holds up, keep us updated.
Its a bouncy sumbitch. Other than that, its freaking awesome. Think 8' tall scaffold with an engine that automatically moves up and down.

Durable - so far the simple answer is uh-huh. I was riding the other day doing about 20 and flat out pushing it through some crap, not paying atttention I ran over a ditch that ran into the river, it was about 18" wide and 18" deep... Surely would have bottomed out the axles if I was going slow enough, I wasn't.

Thankfully my head gracefully kept me from flying out by lightly denting itself against (what appears to be) a harder than cranium roof top. Was certain I was going to stop and realize my mini truck turned into a weenie wagon. Nope, I knocked a panel off the bed and broke part of the weld on the gas tank, other than that, not a damn thing wrong with it.

I was amazed, I hit the ditch so hard I would have been going to get the dually if it had been in my wifes car.

Its not comfy and is governed to 25mph... for me, that might not be a bad thing.

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