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Old 06-08-2010, 08:04 AM   #1
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Is anyone using High Pressure out there? I saw this on the net and thought it looked good. Any issues with HP?

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Old 06-08-2010, 05:25 PM   #2
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MAX has a setup, not cheap, i also noticed that makita has a compressor out now that goes up to 400 psi and runs both high pressure and normal air pressure (100psi or so) tools. i'm not ready to upgrade tools to high pressure. nothing wrong, not sure what is the main benefit of high pressure, especially for trimwork.
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Seems to me that everything MAX pioneers other companies follow suit in a couple of years. I cant see much benefit behind high pressure other than concrete or steel applications. Smaller, quieter, compressor sounds intriguing though.
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Seems to me that everything MAX pioneers other companies follow suit in a couple of years. I cant see much benefit behind high pressure other than concrete or steel applications. Smaller, quieter, compressor sounds intriguing though.
Makita japan have had hp systems for over 5 years. They had them before I bought my first lxt kit and that turned 5 just the other day. Takes a long time to filter from japan then Europe then US.
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But can you imagine upgrading all your pneumatic tools to high pressure, hoses, compressor etc. when the systems we use now AREN'T a flawed system. It makes zero sense to do that unless everyone was complaining that 120 psi wasn't enough.

I looked into the MAX system a year ago and decided it wasn't for me at this time.
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It seems to me that guns running on high pressure would be able to be smaller becuase of the higher pressure diferential.
Another advantage would be less moisture in the air delivered to the tools. That cant hurt. I work with 5000psi compressors and run a lot of tools off scuba bottles becuase I have access to free refils. The air motors never seem to wear out. Also in my experiance air booster pumps that are driven by high pressure air regulated down to lower pressures require almost no maintence but boosters driven off of regular shop air require periodic maintenece most of it related to the moisture.
Disadvantage would be as stated above heavier and stiffer hoses/tanks.
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Smaller and lighter. That's what the articles I've read said. They essentially said this is the future of air tools unless something new comes out.

The coil nailer is smaller and the same weight as an average stick nailer but no need to reload nearly as often. Lets face it would you frame with your finishing gun if you could?

Unfortunately it's extremely expensive right now, but so were plasma tv's...
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Looks like the compressor is around $1K and the framing nailer is around $600. Being new to the U.S. the prices are already coming down.
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Just curious what pressure is the compressor putting out. Is it less than 1000psi? In the machines I work on most of them are 4 stage and the third stage is less than 1000psi. The first three stages have the least amount of valve & ring wear its the final stage that is 3000-5000psi that takes the most abuse and has the most expensive parts.

I wonder how far it would throw things out of ballance if I set up a machine with no final stage valves?
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the makita compressor i saw on their website, I believe it went to 400 psi.
I will check the MAX system.

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