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Old 10-24-2011, 06:41 AM   #1
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Is there any brand of tool that is generally trusted for durability at a reasonable cost for commercial use? I have been using DeWalt but a few of the tools I have from them have either been not performing up to par or have broken while the crew is using them. I don't really think they are being abused, but I am wondering if I should switch over or look at some other brand. Most recently one of my 18v cordless drills broke while the guys were removing some sheet metal, I don't think it is a year old yet. It ticks me off to buy a tool that does not work, but now in reverse mode the drill will release the bit under pressure. Is this just a piece of junk or is this a user fault? I have not really used other brands too much except for Bosch which I generally haven't had problems with, so if anyone has any good reviews for other brands I'd love to hear them.

I deal mostly with concrete and demo work, and then a little bit of various trades (roofing, plumbing, additions/remodel). I take good care of my tools but I need something that can handle the job...
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Just do a search, and read the arguements. Everyone has their own thoughts on whats best. I dropped Dewalt a few years ago having the same problems as you.
I went to Makita and very happy with them.

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You will find plenty of posts about dewalt problems. I wouldn't touch their cordless range at all anymore. They are targeted towards HO's now more than ever. They are always slow to release new tech onto the range and quality is getting worse each year.

Stick to bosch, makita or pannasonic. I would go with makita as they have a massive range of tools that work with the LXT batts, advanced batt tech, plus when you got a few batts, body only prices most of there tools are cheaper than buying body only ryobi tools.
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Demo and concrete I think you would be looking at hilti
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I second that Kent. IMO Hilti is one of the tougher commercial geared tools. They have a fleet management service. Alot Of the large commercial companys use it around by me.

Here the link check out.

http://www.hilti.com/holcom/page/mod...n&nodeId=-8725
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Is there any brand of tool that is generally trusted for durability at a reasonable cost for commercial use?
No company makes the best of everything, it really depends what you are looking for.

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Most recently one of my 18v cordless drills broke while the guys were removing some sheet metal, I don't think it is a year old yet. It ticks me off to buy a tool that does not work, but now in reverse mode the drill will release the bit under pressure.
Sounds like a bad chuck, if its under a year take it in for warranty. No tools are guaranteed not to break.

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I second that Kent. IMO Hilti is one of the tougher commercial geared tools. They have a fleet management service. Alot Of the large commercial companys use it around by me.
I love their hammer drills and guns but I'm not sold on the cordless tools.

"Fleet Management" is a lease program but they pay for all repairs and replace your tools with new ones every year. If you have an abusive crew its a fantastic idea from both a taxation standpoint and a productivity standpoint. For me personally its not worth it to pay 30 bucks a month to lease my cordless drill set.
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For the price of 30$ a month your better off just buying a new set every year! The fleet managment only really pays off if your have a couple hundred tools out in the field...
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For the price of 30$ a month your better off just buying a new set every year!
Not really, when a cordless drill driver set is 550 new...and you are paying per month and writing off the entire amount...as opposed to laying down 550 then depreciating it for the life of the tool.

Why do you think the government leases so many buildings?
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I got the new milwaukee m18 line and love it and have zero complaints.
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Bosch for me!!!
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Here we go again.

I feel you need to shop around for any particular tool to find the one that works best for you. All tools have their strengths and weaknesses.

As far as DeWalt goes I have stated before that I never have had the problems with my DeWalt tools that others on this forum have had. I have many DeWalt tools and they are all great workhorses for me. When purchasing a new tool I always consider them in the line up.

As mentioned do a search and you will find tons of arguments on both sides of the subject.
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Here we go again.

I feel you need to shop around for any particular tool to find the one that works best for you. All tools have their strengths and weaknesses.

As far as DeWalt goes I have stated before that I never have had the problems with my DeWalt tools that others on this forum have had. I have many DeWalt tools and they are all great workhorses for me. When purchasing a new tool I always consider them in the line up.

As mentioned do a search and you will find tons of arguments on both sides of the subject.
The issue is its more negative than positive for dewalt. their cordless tools are exspensive for what they offer. i can count on one hand the people i have heard say good things about dewalt in the last 8-10 years. yet i have lost count of the amount of people not happy with them. even the dewalt rep said their cordless range is not targeting contractors as much as they used to. the moneys in HO's buying the tools. They let people down with the XRP sets and then the nano tech sets. Now they have finally got a set with specs like the others had 6-7 years ago.
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I will go and say the DW24000s tile saw sure is highly praised. For what is worth, dewalt batteries are now that of Makita according to the Dewalt rep. It took a few years to get back where everyone has been for a few years.

If you were to take a poll on this forum and ask what are the choice go to tools- chances are pretty high that Dewalt will be near the bottom. They R not what they used to be.
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I will go and say the DW24000s tile saw sure is highly praised. For what is worth, dewalt batteries are now that of Makita according to the Dewalt rep. It took a few years to get back where everyone has been for a few years.

If you were to take a poll on this forum and ask what are the choice go to tools- chances are pretty high that Dewalt will be near the bottom. They R not what they used to be.
Thats what i find crazy. i love the tile saw, thickness planner, angle drill, belt sander, tile lazer but the cordless tools just aint ever impressed me. when ever im in lowes the only people i see looking at them are HO's they are drawn over to them because of the color and then they leave with a 5pc set! i think they think because they have the biggest display and have seen contractors like Mike Holmes use them they think they are the tools to have!
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Thats what i find crazy. i love the tile saw, thickness planner, angle drill, belt sander, tile lazer but the cordless tools just aint ever impressed me. when ever im in lowes the only people i see looking at them are HO's they are drawn over to them because of the color and then they leave with a 5pc set! i think they think because they have the biggest display and have seen contractors like Mike Holmes use them they think they are the tools to have!
Haha. That is so true. " well if Mike Holmes and Brian Bauemler use them, they must be top of the line" !!

For any Dewalt fans out there- don't get me wrong. They do make some pretty good corded tools but cordless not so good.

Dewalt trends. Good cordless and now not so good
There scms used to be excellent and now not so much.

From contractor approved now to DIY/Ho approved.
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bosch, makita and older style hitachi hands down. i am slowly switching all my tools to bosch. ive only had a couple very very minor issues with my bosch gear and they stepped up and took care of me no charge and then some.

dewalt and milwaukee are almost on the same par nowadays... i owned the newer milwauk compact drill and it was a lemon 3 months after i bought it i was having a several problems with it.. they wouldnt do anything for me either.. on top of that ive used a few of hte same drill elsewhere had the same problems with them such as the clutch wearing out very on in the tools life

as for hilti, its definitiely built to last. my only 2 complaints about hilti are 1) the price, 2) the magazine style p.a.t's they always misfire, ive used several of hte magazine style p.a.t's and they all had issues with misfiring... sent them in to get serviced only to get it back and its still doing the same thing

the single fire ones where you load each nail work great but their slow
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DeWalt crapped their pants a long time ago. They are more hype then anything right now. They are still riding the wave they created years ago. People will think DeWalt is great and buy it b/c of what it used to be. The same is true of other things like FRAM oil filters. WAY back when they used to be great...now they are pure junk when you look at tests that compare oil filters.

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I'd go with Bosch any day. I have yet to have any break downs and I own thousands of dollars in Bosch tools. I'm at the point now where I don't even shop around I just go and choose the bosch one. A bit more money but well worth it.
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What is up with all the different voltages Dewalt is offering? In lithium (not counting the subcompact) they have 18, 20, 28 and 36. It gives me the impression they're struggling to get one right.
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I'd go with Bosch any day. I have yet to have any break downs and I own thousands of dollars in Bosch tools. I'm at the point now where I don't even shop around I just go and choose the bosch one. A bit more money but well worth it.
I hear you on that one. Only my pneumatics are Paslode&Max. Other than that, Bosch has really never let me down in any regard. They are such well designed and durable tools.

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