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Old 09-04-2013, 06:35 PM   #1041
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I will just say beveling is what I consider the weak point of my Trion, as in it's a pita to reliably set an angle or return to 0 as well.

I run the collins on the Trion and it works a treat. For longer scribes I also circ to approximate then sand up to exact, so not thinking that is a deal breaker.

I also have the RO 90 I like it. For super detail though I occasionally reach for my Fein with mouse pad.

I picked up a RTS 400 recently; I would love it if they had worked up a switchable base like the LS 130 or RO 90 so the RTS could function like the DTS as well.

Eh, cest la vie.
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Old 09-04-2013, 08:09 PM   #1042
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Finally got to play with my domino. Making a red oak bar. Im constructing the carcass of the bar with basically individual cabinets to suit there needs. Then skinning with oak to make a raised panel design. Now normally i would dado the shelves and top and bottom. Instead i played with my domino.. i think one cabinet had something like 22 5mm dominos..



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For anyone wondering. The Reason for the cut out in the box is for the bar cleanout..
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Rustbucket,

I have the dts and the ro 90. I have personally found the delta heads sand comparably, however, using the tip on the dts in corners will make the sandpaper a throw away quickly whereas with the ro90 you can simply rotate the paper and use all three corners. The ro90 is much more aggressive when you want it but can also finish nicely (yet a little jumpy). The dts has a small stoke and def. a finer sander.
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It appears as if you marked the centerline of the dominos on the case side. You the probably held the Domino on the center line with the tabs aligned to get the dominos where you wanted them.

Next time, place a straight edge (I use the back of a guide rail) 10 mm from center line, place the bottom of the Domino against the rail, cut the mortises. For the shelf, set the fence at 20mm, place a piece of tape on one side of the shelf, this is you reference side. The centerline in the shelf will be 10mm. Everything will line up, this also works for tops and bottoms. Just push it against a taller vertical and cut away.

If you have a Rapid Clamp for the rail, you can mark the rail with the layout. The fixed edge of the clamp will get you set back to where you need to be.

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It appears as if you marked the centerline of the dominos on the case side. You the probably held the Domino on the center line with the tabs aligned to get the dominos where you wanted them.

Next time, place a straight edge (I use the back of a guide rail) 10 mm from center line, place the bottom of the Domino against the rail, cut the mortises. For the shelf, set the fence at 20mm, place a piece of tape on one side of the shelf, this is you reference side. The centerline in the shelf will be 10mm. Everything will line up, this also works for tops and bottoms. Just push it against a taller vertical and cut away.

If you have a Rapid Clamp for the rail, you can mark the rail with the layout. The fixed edge of the clamp will get you set back to where you need to be.

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Nice strategy, I think I've seen that illustrated on fog but haven't done it that way yet. Have you seen the homemade domino bracket for the lr32 rail? Very cool

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I saw a Festool rep at JLC live do it a little differently. He marked the side panel where the top of the shelf would land and clamped the shelf on that line. Parallel to it not perpendicular. He then used the edge of the shelf as his straight for the side panel . Dropped the domino straight down for the side panel then flipped the fence and did the shelf while still clamped to the side panel. After he flipped the shelf on edge and it hit the line perfectly.
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I saw a Festool rep at JLC live do it a little differently. He marked the side panel where the top of the shelf would land and clamped the shelf on that line. Parallel to it not perpendicular. He then used the edge of the shelf as his straight for the side panel . Dropped the domino straight down for the side panel then flipped the fence and did the shelf while still clamped to the side panel. After he flipped the shelf on edge and it hit the line perfectly.
That will work as long as the side panel is flat. You're now referencing off the entire bottom of the Domino sole plate. No reason to flip the fence down, he could have used the center indicator on the base. You also have to make sure the shelf is square to the edge of the side.

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That will work as long as the side panel is flat. You're now referencing off the entire bottom of the Domino sole plate. No reason to flip the fence down, he could have used the center indicator on the base. You also have to make sure the shelf is square to the edge of the side.

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Don't you need to drop the fence to get your 10mm offset from the top of the shelf? I thought you would always use the fence when going into an edge. It was the first time I had seen a domino demo so my head was kind of spinning
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Don't you need to drop the fence to get your 10mm offset from the top of the shelf? I thought you would always use the fence when going into an edge. It was the first time I had seen a domino demo so my head was kind of spinning
Take a look at the picture.

If the shelf is on the side panel there will be a 2mm gap between the fence and the face of the shelf (if it is 3/4 ply, 6mm off if it is 1/2" ply). So flipping the fence down is a waste of time. You must make sure the good side is down because you're referencing off the base of the Domino not the fence. So the 10mm distance is from the face of the cabinet side/bottom of the shelf, not the top of the shelf. If there are undulations in the ply it will mess up your mortice.

I've done it, not my preferred method.

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It appears as if you marked the centerline of the dominos on the case side. You the probably held the Domino on the center line with the tabs aligned to get the dominos where you wanted them.

Next time, place a straight edge (I use the back of a guide rail) 10 mm from center line, place the bottom of the Domino against the rail, cut the mortises. For the shelf, set the fence at 20mm, place a piece of tape on one side of the shelf, this is you reference side. The centerline in the shelf will be 10mm. Everything will line up, this also works for tops and bottoms. Just push it against a taller vertical and cut away.

If you have a Rapid Clamp for the rail, you can mark the rail with the layout. The fixed edge of the clamp will get you set back to where you need to be.

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If you look carefully there is a second line i used that i erased. The line represents the top of the shelf. I used a straight edged set to that line and had the domino set to 10mm to more or less center the domino in the shelf. I actually had more meat to the top of the shelf which is what i wanted. Worked perfect. Easier than i thought too. Sounds almost exactly like your method.

I have yet to use the tabs on the fence to allign the dominos. I used my center line to, of course center the shelf, but also trasfer my dominos from shelf to side piece. I drew my center line, then laid the shelf along that line. Then marked out my dominos and trasfered the lines to both pieces with a piece of scrap..

If that makes sense....
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If you look carefully there is a second line i used that i erased. The line represents the top of the shelf. I used a straight edged set to that line and had the domino set to 10mm to more or less center the domino in the shelf. I actually hsd more meat to the top of the shelf which is what i wanted. Worked perfect. Easier than i thought too. Sounds almost ecactly like your method.

I have yet to use the tabs on the fence to allign the dominos. I used my center line to, of course center the shelf, but also trasfer my dominos from shelf to side piece. I drew my center line, then laid the shelf along that line. Then marked out my dominos and trasfered the lines to both pieces with a piece of scrap..

If that makes sense....
I did not see the other line in the photo. Sounds like you did it the same way I would.

If you use the 20 on the fence height dog, that will set the centerline of the domino 10mm off the reference surface.

Way to much marking, no reason to go through all that layout.

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Last night I was talking to my wife. We moved and our old sectional doesn't fit the layout of our new living room. She wants a couch.

I said I was thinking about just building our living room furniture....."REALLY! That would be worth waiting for!"

Domino, here I come...
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I'm thinking you need the DF 500 AND the XL DF 700.

Have fun going through Frank Millers stock.

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For furniture, I think you need a tenoner and a mortiser.
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Spencer, you're close enough, just go use Darcys'. Tell him I said it's okay.

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For furniture, I think you need a tenoner and a mortiser.
I got it. The domino is for "fast" furniture, this guy is for the fine furniture. Need to get it hooked up again. Almost got rid of it. I'm such a moron...

Its nothing compared to that chain mortiser you've got. Got have to make a jig for tenons.
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Nice hollow chisel mortiser. Looks to be complete and have several different size chisels.

I am on the look out for one about that size, really need one of those and a chain mortiser for all mortising activities.
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Nice hollow chisel mortiser. Looks to be complete and have several different size chisels.

I am on the look out for one about that size, really need one of those and a chain mortiser for all mortising activities.
I've got a few. Hard telling how old they are. I need to see if the guy who sharpens my saw blades can do anything with them. They are very dull.

I haven't used it besides turning it on to see if it works. It has the collets also. Pretty simple to use really.
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So I was getting irritated at my kapex yesterday because i didn't want to drag the ct out for cutting deck boards but I was tired of the dust flying in my face

Went to the hardware store and found this for 20 bucks.


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So I was getting irritated at my kapex yesterday because i didn't want to drag the ct out for cutting deck boards but I was tired of the dust flying in my face

Went to the hardware store and found this for 20 bucks.

Fits perfect even though I realize its an abomination to the purest. But it solves my problem
This should be a instant lifetime ban lol

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