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Old 08-12-2013, 08:38 PM   #861
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I think he's talking about just taking the material and producing the part, none of the other overheads involved in getting the product to consumers.
I know all about overhead and shipping. I work for a lumber yard that is part of one of the largest franchises in the country. I can log on to their site and see what the cost is, and the retail price on millions of products.

Some things have much higher markup than others. Power tools are very little, as are highly competitive products like senco kc27's. But then their are things with unbelievably high markup. Usually smaller items that would not be worth the hassle without the markup.

When I look at festool and see something like the TS55 that doesn't bug me. I don't believe the markup is that much. But when I look at what is costs me to get a systainer, I know that the markup on those things is out of this world because there is nothing to them. Still, they're worth it because they are a great idea still even if it doesn't take a lot to manufacture them. It is what it is. I have no reason to complain I'm just bitter that I can't afford all the festool stuff I want.......yet.
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:40 PM   #862
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I much prefer the set pricing. No wasted time looking for a "deal". I just pick up the phone and call Tom at Tool Home. I've called him between 6 AM to 11 PM CST 6 days a week, only once in 5 years have I gotten his voice mail. Other hours or Sunday I send an email, he calls me by 6 AM. He gets my orders to me in 2 days from Austin Tx. Shipping is "free" on Festool orders. A few weeks ago I needed interface pads for my Planex. Could not get them locally, Tom drove to FedEx and shipped them priority next morning to the job site. The pads were less than $20.00, he never charged me for the priority shipping.

Big difference between cost and value.

Tom also arranged for me to send my Festool saw blades to the manufactures (Leitz) US headquarters in Grand Rapids for sharpening. The shops around here just can't get them right.

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Old 08-12-2013, 08:42 PM   #863
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Leitz.

Yes, the real dealers are awesome.
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:44 PM   #864
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Darcy,

Thank you for the correction of my brain fart. I corrected it in the post.

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That's illegal and called price fixing.
If that’s the case then we should also look into the dealings of Wolf – SubZero – Viking – Fisher & Paykel. High-end appliances are price controlled as well.
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:48 PM   #866
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Your a funny guy but you definitely don't want to get on the wrong side of a bunch of kool-aid junkies on a kool-aid thread. We'll pay what we have to, the other stuff just doesn't cut it.

My dealer doesnt need a contract cause thats his corner!!! Now where'd I put my systainer?!!
Get on the wrong side? Have you seen my truck?
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Big difference between cost and value.



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Old 08-12-2013, 09:18 PM   #868
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Get on the wrong side? Have you seen my truck?
Nope, just a crappy attempt at a joke. My son thinks I'm funny but he can't read yet.
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Nope, just a crappy attempt at a joke. My son thinks I'm funny but he can't read yet.
I have so many systainers they don't all fit in my truck. Just because I hate price fixing companies doesn't mean I don't spend massive amounts of money on their products.

Plus I just like being as asshole...
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I personally think that Festool wants their dealers to succeed by having the built in profit. Something Lowes or HD can't compete with. My local guys have resorted to giving free service labor for life on all tool purchases, just have to pay for parts for out of warranty stuff, just to try to compete with big boxes that sell for cost sometimes. I've tried to have them price match Amazon before, where Amazon was selling cheaper than what they pay for it. I buy most tools from them, while using amazon for stuff they don't carry.
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I've tried to have them price match Amazon before, where Amazon was selling cheaper than what they pay for it. I buy most tools from them, while using amazon for stuff they don't carry.
Amazon has very little markup on a lot of things. I can also vouch that they sell power tools for what we buy them for.

I know a guy at that worked at Lowes. On days like black friday they are actually dropping a lot of sale items under cost just to get you in the door. If you are a savvy shopper they pay you to come and take their stuff.
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Amazon has very little markup on a lot of things. I can also vouch that they sell power tools for what we buy them for.
I'm sure they are still making money. Why else would they be in it? They can keep prices low because they have a very efficient model with low overhead, and buy vast quantities so can negotiate a better price. Even more so than HD and Lowe's. They don't have retail outlets, so all they need is cheap warehouse space. No salespeople wandering aimlessly around the floor collecting a paycheck.

I agree with what you said earlier regarding low markup on power tools. My first job in High School was in the Sears tool department. My employee discount of "Cost + 10%) would ofter cost me more than if I bought retail. Other things, like the accessories, were pretty high. Lighting fixtures were just plain nuts. My Cost + 10% would save me about 70%!
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Amazon has very little markup on a lot of things. I can also vouch that they sell power tools for what we buy them for.

I know a guy at that worked at Lowes. On days like black friday they are actually dropping a lot of sale items under cost just to get you in the door. If you are a savvy shopper they pay you to come and take their stuff.
Amazon def make money on tools. I seen the markup on Makita gear and my dealer sells the tools at same price as amazon. I would guess festools is around 30% based on what I know about Makita markup.
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John it has the same power as the Hilti 22v but its much lighter and better balanced and the main reason I bought it was the holder for heads.
Well i have ordered the Festool T-18. I will give it a try out next week and see if it is as good as the Hilti 22v

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Turned up today, I will see next week if it is as powerful as the Hilti.

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You won't be disappointed John. I'm really happy with mine.
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An air compressor in a Systainer

http://www.toolsofthetrade.net/pneum...ompressor.aspx

The idea that this could exist never crossed my mind.
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An air compressor in a Systainer

http://www.toolsofthetrade.net/pneum...ompressor.aspx

The idea that this could exist never crossed my mind.
I would like that if it was super quiet, if not then I will stick to my small pancake compressor that I already own and will last a looong time.

Great idea for sure to hook it up with other systainers.
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This whole green kook aid sucks!! I find myself shopping for little accessories constantly...hose sleeves, deal on abrasives, blades...when doesn't all end!??

I do love to the Rotex I just bought...of course I had to order the hard pad this week.

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