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Old 05-23-2013, 11:55 AM   #201
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That is nice. The wings are ******* expensive by themselves.
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Old 05-23-2013, 12:00 PM   #202
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Yours are the new style wings if you have the single leg. If you do not loosen the thumb screw enough to push the retaining tab far enough into the Kapex the wings will be very unstable. Do not loosen the thumb screw so far that it falls out. You must push the retainer in all the way and then tighten the thumb screw. I had issues with the wings being wobbly at first also, once I figured out I was not pushing the retainer in far enough the problem went away. The single leg is fine, once you get the attachment worked out.

My Bosch I have to move the fence to bevel past about 20. If I'm doing a lot of bevel work, I just take them off. Make sure you vacuum out the fence slots on the yoke before you reinstall the fences.

I've had little problems with the small projectiles, but I know that it is an issue. When cutting small pieces I either back them up or let the blade come to a stop before I raise the head, just the way I've always handled small pieces like self return cuts. I think (but don't know for sure) the dust collection has something to do with the flying small pieces. It may lift the small piece into the blade as it being raised.

Which clamp? If it's the material hold down clamp, all brands get in the way of bevel cuts.

Not sure a longer deck would help.

One of the biggest thing I like about the UG wings is they mount to my MFT3 and CMS.

You can also reverse the UG wings side for each to act as your crown stops.

I have used the MFT Kapex, with the wings, and that little extra space around the saw is pretty nice. I don't like setting up the old style wings with the twin legs and strut. The new wings on the MFT Kapex would be a really nice combination. Not having the UG cart you do give up a little bit of ease of transport though.

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Yeah I saw that video of the set up. I have pondered and tried everything to get those buggers to attach solidly. I don't think I am doing anything different that the cat in the video.

It's solid from above, side to side not so much. Like I said, compare the UG wing attachment bracket to the crown attachment bracket, world of difference. If the UG had the crown bracket we wouldn't be having this conversation. That is the mystifying part to me, they have a fine example of what works with another of their own products.

If they can be useful with CMS, which is next on my list, there could be some redemptive factor to them.

A longer deck would let you get you your full bevel out of the saw, which with fences removed is 45 right and 39 left due to the clamp. Seems like another 2-4 " would get you to max.

Seems like an unnecessary design limitation.

I *want* to love it in every way. And like I said it cuts like a treat.
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I had to move at least one fence for bevels on my old makitas and bosch saws.

The issue on the kapex is the forward rails. To save space behind the saw, there is compromise, the rails will hit the fence on bevels over 25?
Yeah you have to move the fences on all saws but the Kapex is the only one I've used where you have to take the right hand fence all the way off. Still prefer to do that and have the rails up front though. Small compromise in my opinion.
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I had to move at least one fence for bevels on my old makitas and bosch saws.

The issue on the kapex is the forward rails. To save space behind the saw, there is compromise, the rails will hit the fence on bevels over 25?
Yeah it's the rails, the kicker was being limited to 39 on a left bevel with no way around it, that's what really started to irritate me. It was like being home again on my old DeWault single bevel.

It seems as if they made the deck longer they could of delivered it all.
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It's not that big of a deal to slide the fence back. Bevel cutting probably accounts for 10% of my cutting max.

How are you limited to 39 left?
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That is nice. The wings are ******* expensive by themselves.
No joke. Hence the homemade wings...
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It's not that big of a deal to slide the fence back. Bevel cutting probably accounts for 10% of my cutting max.

How are you limited to 39 left?
If you don't slide the fence over any, the rails hit at 39. If you slide the fence over a bit, it clears the full 47
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It's not that big of a deal to slide the fence back. Bevel cutting probably accounts for 10% of my cutting max.

How are you limited to 39 left?
Material clamp?
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If you don't slide the fence over any, the rails hit at 39. If you slide the fence over a bit, it clears the full 47
Then what saw am I using?

I get 45 right, max with fence removed; and 39 left, as it hits the material clamp.
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If you don't slide the fence over any, the rails hit at 39. If you slide the fence over a bit, it clears the full 47
I just drug mine out and checked. Yup. My saw looks like hell.
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Photos of the bracket from the front and rear.

Video of the connection yours should be this solid;

http://youtu.be/p5ki5tqtOqE

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Old 05-23-2013, 02:06 PM   #212
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Photos of the bracket from the front and rear.

Video of the connection yours should be this solid;

http://youtu.be/p5ki5tqtOqE

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Thanks Tom, I am clearly not getting something right. That is what I am looking for. I will screw around with it and then come back and eat crow/shut my pie-hole.
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I just drug mine out and checked. Yup. My saw looks like hell.
And clearly the clamp *can* be removed. This is getting better by minute. RTFM.
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And clearly the clamp *can* be removed. This is getting better by minute. RTFM.
Spin it 180 degrees a pull it out.
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Spin it 180 degrees a pull it out.
Yeah... I'm going to need me to move my stuff to the basement, that would be great.

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Spin it 180 degrees a pull it out.
That's what she said!
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Then what saw am I using?
Without pictures I have no clue.

The UG wings on my MFT3, the last pic is of the CMS fence on the MFT3 using it as an additional fence and stop. I don't have any pics of the wings on the CMS, but I have used them on it.

Some day I may have to actually buy a Kapex and the stand.

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Darcy,

I drive an Excursion, the UG stand and wings work out well for me. I find it very easy to swing it up into the truck while on the stand. There are 3 doors a vanity, 1 sheet 1/2" MDF, MFT3, Kapex on UG stand with wings,35 systainers, Rolair Jc10, MM, a tub of other stuff and then some in my truck in these pics.

It is one of the things I like best about the Festools, you can neatly pack a lot of stuff in a vehicle.

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Made these, TS 55, Kapex and Domino.

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Is that a saw kerf on your track? :
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is that a saw kerf on your track? :
At the bottom of the track it looks like a kerf from a kickback

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