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Old 01-09-2016, 05:31 PM   #1
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So I'm thinking its time for me to make the jump to an actual dust extractor, not just a "shop vac". Here's my question... I just got an email from Amazon that has the Bosch 090A with auto clean for $599 or the Festool CT26 for $650. Does anyone have any experience with the Bosch?? I know the Festool seems to be the bench mark but the Bosch has a larger capacity. I'm not stuck on either brand so if anybody has more suggestions I'm all ears.
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Old 01-09-2016, 05:41 PM   #2
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The Bosch does everything the Festool does and is more powerful. If I had it to do all over again I'd without hesitation get the Bosch. The BOSCH doen't come with the Hepa but if your not doing RRP, I would settle with the stock filter. You can always get the Hepa for the Bosch later if you wish.

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Both are good vac's but if you are already tied into Festool tools and Systainers the Festool is a no brainier. The Festool also does not come with a HEPA and adding one to it does not make it compliant with RRP as it didn't pass certification from what I hear. Prob something to do with the way it blows air back through the filter to clean it out.
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Both are good vac's but if you are already tied into Festool tools and Systainers the Festool is a no brainier. The Festool also does not come with a HEPA and adding one to it does not make it compliant with RRP as it didn't pass certification from what I hear. Prob something to do with the way it blows air back through the filter to clean it out.
The Bosch with a Hepa is RRP compliant. Says right on thier website. Unless they are lying.

You aren't supposed to have it on auto clean when it is equipped with a Hepa filter
Here's the BOSCH spec. Auto clean is to be off.

Automatic filter cleaning - cleans filter every 15 seconds to maintain maximum suction power
L-BOXX integration - instantly creates a mobile workstation
Power tool activation - allows power tool's switch to turn vacuum on and off
Power Brokerô dial - for allocating power between vacuum and connected power tool. also allows suction control for specialty applications
EPA lead Related Renovations Repair and Painting (RRP) rule compliant - when accessory VF120H filter is used
High suction force - high CFM for excellent dust extraction capabilities
Flat filter design - maximizes canister capacity
Lightweight and portable - for easier lifting and transportation
Vacuum hose wrap - keeps hose secure and out of the way during storage or transportation
Cord wrap - for convenient storage of cord
On-board accessory storage - convenient storage for easy access to optional wands, nozzles, and other accessories
Wet vacuuming water level sensor - automatically shuts down vacuum when water reaches a maximum height to protect motor
Rugged construction / polypropylene tank - durable and rust free
Rubber wheels and locking caster - built to withstand the demands of a jobsite

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The Bosch with a Hepa is RRP compliant. Says right on thier website. Unless they are lying.

You aren't supposed to have it on auto clean when it is equipped with a Hepa filter
Here's the BOSCH spec. Auto clean is to be off.

Automatic filter cleaning - cleans filter every 15 seconds to maintain maximum suction power
L-BOXX integration - instantly creates a mobile workstation
Power tool activation - allows power tool's switch to turn vacuum on and off
Power Broker dial - for allocating power between vacuum and connected power tool. also allows suction control for specialty applications
EPA lead Related Renovations Repair and Painting (RRP) rule compliant - when accessory VF120H filter is used
High suction force - high CFM for excellent dust extraction capabilities
Flat filter design - maximizes canister capacity
Lightweight and portable - for easier lifting and transportation
Vacuum hose wrap - keeps hose secure and out of the way during storage or transportation
Cord wrap - for convenient storage of cord
On-board accessory storage - convenient storage for easy access to optional wands, nozzles, and other accessories
Wet vacuuming water level sensor - automatically shuts down vacuum when water reaches a maximum height to protect motor
Rugged construction / polypropylene tank - durable and rust free
Rubber wheels and locking caster - built to withstand the demands of a jobsite

I thought it would be something to do with the auto clean. You can't turn it off on the Festool as far as I remember. I always have it maxed out.
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I thought it would be something to do with the auto clean. You can't turn it off on the Festool as far as I remember. I always have it maxed out.
My midi came with a Hepa and RRP compliant.
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My midi came with a Hepa and RRP compliant.

All non auto clean models do.
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The OP said he was looking at the CT26, not the CT36ac. As mentioned the CT26 will be rrp compliant with the included hepa filter.
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Are you using for drywall? If so, auto-clean is a real benefit.
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I was planning on using it for everything/ anything. Weather dust collection with my miter saw or table saw. Or cleaning up at the end of the job. I am rrp certifified but have no plans of doing lead work or rrp work in the near future. I do plan on picking up a marks sander and using it for drywall amongst other general sanding duties.
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Also I should add I do not own any festool tools yet. Although I have been thinking about getting a domino.
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Also I should add I do not own any festool tools yet. Although I have been thinking about getting a domino.
Auto/tool start and 27 mm hose for use with the Domino, no matter what the brand extractor it needs these 2 things. The Domino must be used with dust extraction.

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The Bosch vac hoses attach to any Festool tools just as easily as the ct vac does. The only thing a Festool vac does as far as coordinate with festool products is you can stack the Festool boxes on it. So basically a tool cart. I certainly wouldn't make a 600 dollar vac decision because it makes a tool cart.

I like the idea of more power. Also the auto clean feature is nice for fine dust as well.
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Get either Bosch if or festi. Get the auto clean model. It will enable you to do anything / everything from general clean up, tool dust collection, grinding masonry, polishing I mean all of it. I personally own festi midi and the bigass 36autoclean. I use the hell out of both of them. From tool DC to polishing concrete tuckpointing cutting out masonry walls for headers doors on and on. I'm in the festi because of the tool carting. I get out of sprinter stack up the vac andcin my way. I especially love it when I'm high rises/ condo's. It's just too easy. Also keep in mind I was dialed in to festi with and there sts boxes before Bosch came out with there llboxx and vac. There both compatible. Also look into the Dewalt. They make killer cac with Ac for 400. And there tstaks make's and awesome / excellent system. They already have there vacs dialed in with there tstaks so they'll be here soon.
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i had the BOSCH vac090 auto version. sent it back and got the s version, couldn't stand the auto clean thumping every 15 seconds, and the fact that it reverts back to the on position after turned on/off. instead of staying on/off until changed which i could have delt with.. both vacs are amazing and would definitely recommend. i also use the 6-9 gal ridgid bags from hd in mine.

The bosch has noticeably more suction then my new ridgid wd1450 rated at 179cfm using both with the ridgid 2.5" x 7ft hose.

CPO had the vac140s recon on sale for $399 2 weeks ago.
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and l boxxes stack on top! But arent these still all shop vacs/dust collectors? Dust extractors (to me)
were always these big 4-5" hose monsters. They never really removed super fine stuff (under 1 micron).

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Bump, Mike did your Bosch vac die? I noticed you use a Milwaukee now.
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Bump, Mike did your Bosch vac die? I noticed you use a Milwaukee now.


Me? I never owned a Bosch. With that said, I love my Milwaukee vac. I have a Milwaukee, Fein, and Festool. They all have their individual pluses.


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ah my bad, you knew so much them seemed like you owned one.
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So I'm thinking its time for me to make the jump to an actual dust extractor, not just a "shop vac". Here's my question... I just got an email from Amazon that has the Bosch 090A with auto clean for $599 or the Festool CT26 for $650. Does anyone have any experience with the Bosch?? I know the Festool seems to be the bench mark but the Bosch has a larger capacity. I'm not stuck on either brand so if anybody has more suggestions I'm all ears.
There is a newer model VAC090AH with HEPA Filter for $499.00 on Amazon

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