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Old 11-09-2012, 07:35 PM   #1
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Does anyone have a recommendation for dust collection systems?

I have a 15' x 25' shop space with storage above. Every time I use the table saw, the whole shop space is covered in dust. I have tried hooking it up to a shop vac but that has not worked.

I am looking at 2 HP Industrial 5 Micron Dust Collector and 1 HP Mini Dust Collector from Harbor Freight.

Does anyone have any recommendations or want to warn me about Harbor Freight, I know they are low quality tools but I am looking for something for a couple hundred bucks.

Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:43 PM   #2
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I actually got this one on clearance at menards for $150. Honestly wasn't expecting much out of it for being so affordable, but has been wonderful. I use it for the TX and the router. Well worth the little price tag.

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5 micron is pretty horrible of a filter. You don't want to breath the air around that. For inside the shop you want less than a micron, prefabibly half micron.
Then mount an air filter above the table saw.
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5 micron is pretty horrible of a filter. You don't want to breath the air around that. For inside the shop you want less than a micron, prefabibly half micron.
Then mount an air filter above the table saw.
I agree, the lower micro bags are cheap and they were a direct fit onto that Porter Cable.

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I agree, the lower micro bags are cheap and they were a direct fit onto that Porter Cable.

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Didn't mean yours, meant the HF. Your is prolly a 1 or 2. Anything less is usually a pleated filter.
I am moving mine to a shed and direct venting it outside into the woods. No filter needed.
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Didn't mean yours, meant the HF. Your is prolly a 1 or 2. Anything less is usually a pleated filter.
I am moving mine to a shed and direct venting it outside into the woods. No filter needed.
LOL I thought you did because the stockers were 5 micron
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I have had my dust collector for about a year now. It is a 2 hp general international. Grizzly has one almost the same but less expensive. 2hp is minimum in my opinion.
Don't take the cheap route, you will have to do it twice.
Big duct's short runs is the secret.
I used a 1hp and 6 feet of duct and it would not pull the dust out of the saw.
Spring for the pleated filter as well. You won't regret it.
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Alot of your problem starts with what type of table saw you have in your shop.If you have the old standard contractor tablesaw, there are after market additions to help close up the bottom of most of those type tablesaws. There are plans out on the internet for a blade guard type dust collect on the top side of a tablesaw.
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Here's what I use for my delta contractor saw


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5 micron is pretty horrible of a filter. You don't want to breath the air around that. For inside the shop you want less than a micron, prefabibly half micron.
Then mount an air filter above the table saw.
are there any affordable brands you would recommend with a smaller micron filter?
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16-2200 CFPM DC system with blast gates.........

You can probably run it at 110.... 4" feeds...5" main......

I think you will be pleasantly surprised.....l


Look on cL for some rope piping...


You can use HVAc....PVC.....etc.etc...just no ribbed mains.....creates drag and the flex 4 does that already,,,,


And definitely ground your dc,,,static electricity issues...


Shop vacs,....


Well,


They suck........all about CFPM.......

No comparison.....

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There is no 2200 CFM system that is going to run on 120v

Since you are mentioning Harbor Freight, that about as far as I'll go with this conversation.
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Get what works for you,,,,..




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I have that HF unit... the "2" hp unit. The 1hp mini your looking into getting is junk from what I hear. The "2" hp unit is supposed to be pretty good for what it is. Lots of good reviews on woodworking sites for garage shops and what not. Even a few upgrades here an there. Here is a photo of mine...nothing fancy, some PVC, some blast gates. Still use the 5 micron bag...which leaves fine dust everywhere, but I get around 90% collection of everything else so it really just helps keep the mess down. If I ever get serious about dust collection I will get a cyclone for it and just exhaust it outside.
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This compressor sits next to it...see the fine dust on everything...that is what it looks like around the unit normally. You can see the flex hose connecting to the PVC. When we first got it, we sorta just rigged it in with what we had with the intent to do it right in the near future....that was about a year ago now...




I have a 25' pool hose I dropped from the ceiling to the rail saw...not a ton suction at the end but the rail saw does a great job at directing the dust into the hose so not much is needed.

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You have yourself I nice setup there TBF.....
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I have an okay set-up...It does what it needs to do right now, but it could be better.
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Hey,
I'm right behind you with that thought......

Things can always be better but IMO, as long as it works,and your happy....that's all that is important.......


I have the same 2hp DC......does a great job, it sucks.....picks up bowling balls.... etc,etc,,etc,,,,

I tweaked mine a little bit...

I have one main , originally started with the black irrigation pipe- ribbed......not a god idea.....

Went with the smooth white PVC drain pipe - much better

The electrics are a 24vlt transformer with a Relay for a remote which is incorporated into the drive. ...wireless......

I have a small remote I stick in my pocket and can turn the DC from outside if I wanted to.......

I will say this- the metal blast gates are MUCH better than the plastic....

I tried those......not very well made.....and yes they came from Rockler....

The metal BG's are well built and do a great job.....


Anyway,
The 2hp system has done a great job, and that's my honest opinion.....
As always.......

But what you have in your shop, feeds has an affect if there are an abundance of them- with blast gates. May have to ramp up the hp and cfpm ....and as Leo pointed out...your going to probably have to jump up to 220v...


Different strokes for different folks.......etc.etc..etc...




I can't wait to show you the DC for my new work station for the Bocsh,....you know......the one that's been in the box for over almost a year.....


I totally agree with you...


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I have an okay set-up...It does what it needs to do right now, but it could be better.
Mine could be better too. I like the 40HP version at the place that sells my retail wood. Man, that thing can suck.

But the 2 1/2 HP version does pretty well for me. Usually only have 2 gates open, on occasion three.

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