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Old 09-07-2011, 08:22 AM   #1
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I am currently making a bid up for one of my customers that has a "shopping list" of pretty substantial repairs and remodel on their residence.

Of these....one is installing a dust collection system for a small wood shop they have, approx. 14x25.
They have three or four "major" tools (table saw,router table,planer..) with a few other minor tools that they use in the shop.

I am an outside guy...the only thing I use my shop for is a family collection center... I have limited (but some) knowledge about these systems. But not enough to tell her what is best.

I was hoping some of y'all could put me on the right path as far as suggested models, size, and if possible set up time for whatever system you suggest.so I could give them the best bang for the buck.

Hopefully I gave enough info on shop size and tools used in the shop.

Thanks in advance for your help!
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:49 AM   #2
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I am assuming, with a shop that size, that they intend to only use one tool at a time? You can go from mild to wild here. What's the budget?

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This would be a good place to start:
http://www.oneida-air.com/static.asp...selection.html

Oneida is an impressive newer company. They guy that started it used to work for a big old name company, & built his own small home shop system from scratch back in the late 80's. Eventually all of his buddies wanted the same setup. & the rest is history. His nich was originally for small shops, which the big companies totally ignored.

There are lot's of ways to go on a collector, but in short, for that size shop, I'd go with a cyclone in the range of 3 to 5 hp, & 6" to 8" trunk line. If you stay inside, go Hepa. They are a bit of a hassle when they load up, but result in cleaner air than bags. They result in less noise also.

Penn State , Grizzly, Extrema, & Woodtech @ Woodworker's Supply are also worth a look.
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I have a much bigger shop and more substantial tools and I get by with a 2 1/2 HP Oneida cyclone.
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I am assuming, with a shop that size, that they intend to only use one tool at a time? You can go from mild to wild here. What's the budget?
More than likely...using one tool at a time...nothing professional..they are retired military...making birdhouses and small projects to keep them busy.

As far as a budget...hmmm...probably on the lower side. Like I said, they will probably work in their shop very little, and on very small scale.
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For that kind of use, & money, I'd use one of these:
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/TEMPESTCX.html

http://www.pennstateind.com/catalog/full.php?page=87

We've been running one (w/bag filter) daily at a cut & bore station for about 6 yrs. It's quiet, w/ no issues. The bag is about $200 less tyhan the canister unit, if that matters.
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Grizzly tool company is worth a look----lots of systems and excellent customer service if you need parts or have questions.
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I will second joe's recommendation.
Once you try and set up a whole shop system you will be spending some cash on metal duct, fittings and blast gates. Get something small you can wheel to each machine. Something with around 850 cfm's should be plenty for individual machines.
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I was recomending the wall mout unit with the bag filter bag instead of the canister unit. Using a roll around will definately work, but it just all depends on the amount of time you want to spend on setting up each time you use a tool. It's nice to just open a gate, & hit the switch to start up, but it definately has a cost.
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I was recomending the wall mout unit with the bag filter bag instead of the canister unit. Using a roll around will definately work, but it just all depends on the amount of time you want to spend on setting up each time you use a tool. It's nice to just open a gate, & hit the switch to start up, but it definately has a cost.
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Yeah the bag ones are cheaper for sure.

I couldn't deal with a roll around or a single unit for each machine but, for small use hobby shop, it would be a good place to start. I am using a double bagger import with hard piping and blast gates for my current set up.

You could locate that wall unit one in the right place and be able to use one of those stretchy hoses and reach each machine.
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For a shop that small, and making bird houses, and such, I would go with a portable unit. I have a little Delta 50-720 1HP/650 CFM with a garbage can separator and a flexible hose and quick connect system from Rockler. Works fine for my table saw, jointer, planer and router table. Quick and easy to connect to each machine. It's not as efficient as a system with ducts hooked up to each machine, but if I'm just batching out material, I'm not jumping from machine to machine, either. I would like a bigger shop with a ducted dust collector, but I ain't there yet!

For your customer, who is just using this as an occasional hobby shop, I don't see the need to go too high tech. If their planer is a bigger stationary unit, go with a better DC than what I have. They can spit out a lot of chips in a hurry. The cyclone style, like the Oneida or Tempest, is a definite step up.
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I know a lot of hobbyists that have fancy set ups and thousands upon thousands of dollars worth of equipment to produce glorified bird houses.

It's a 'bragging rights' thing.

If they want an 'over kill' system sell it ----install it and make some money.

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