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Old 12-14-2009, 06:17 PM   #121
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Ever use the original black impulse framer?
Nope. I'm an old buzzard, but a noob (relatively) in construction. First day on the job, I showed up with a HO clawhammer, tape measure and framing square--never heard of a speed square.

They handed me an air nailer and I thought I died and went to heaven. 6 months later I bought a Paslode and went to heaven again.
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Old 12-14-2009, 07:15 PM   #122
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Ever use the original black impulse framer?

That cost me over a thousand bucks between purchase and repairs...even had a guy GIVE me his for parts.

But I am happy with the new orange models

had one, forgot what i paid but i had to have one. It was my first nail gun. Worked great for about two years but you really had to keep after it, keep it cleaned, replace the long thin battery once in awhile as they wore out and the cells inside would break the connections with each other. the 6 dollar fuel cells never seemed to last as long as they were advertised, i would use about 3 or sometimes 4 per box of nails. When it was cold out the gun would be tempermental and would misfire about 5-10% of the time. I must have had that gun completely apart to the last screw two dozen times. When it finally **** the bed and the motor wouldnt run at all i never replaced it. I went with air. I bought a senco pneumatic gun that was supposed to use the same paper colated nails but the angle was slightly different and i returned it the same day for a pneumatic paslode framer.
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Old 12-14-2009, 08:33 PM   #123
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Ever use the original black impulse framer?

That cost me over a thousand bucks between purchase and repairs...even had a guy GIVE me his for parts.

But I am happy with the new orange models
I worked with a guy who bought one when they first became available in NJ. He used it to frame walls in the rain one day and it took a dump. When the service guy comes out to fix it, he asked if we used it in the rain. Then he asked if we took our home stereos out in the rain. Apparently it wasn't designed as an all weather tool. I have six orange Impulses now, 3 framers, 2 16 gauge trimmers and an 18 gauge brad nailer and am happy with all of them.
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I nominate the Delta 12-inch benchtop drill press as the biggest POS tool I've ever bought.
It has a Morse taper spindle that the El Cheapo chuck keeps falling off of while in use.

As runner up, I nominate the Porter Cable 444, single-speed profile sander. It just plain sucks. I donít know if the variable-speed model is any better, but I sure hope so.

General Tools pipe and tubing cutters are also high on my poop list. They must make their cutting wheels out of glass.
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As runner up, I nominate the Porter Cable 444, single-speed profile sander. It just plain sucks. I donít know if the variable-speed model is any better, but I sure hope so.
I'll Second that!
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Old 12-15-2009, 08:22 PM   #126
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General Tools pipe and tubing cutters are also high on my poop list. They must make their cutting wheels out of glass.
Don't remind me, I destroyed mine in one day! Torque the pipe a bit and the wheel chips, total rubbish.
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I nominate the Delta 12-inch benchtop drill press as the biggest POS tool I've ever bought.
It has a Morse taper spindle that the El Cheapo chuck keeps falling off of while in use.

As runner up, I nominate the Porter Cable 444, single-speed profile sander. It just plain sucks. I donít know if the variable-speed model is any better, but I sure hope so.

General Tools pipe and tubing cutters are also high on my poop list. They must make their cutting wheels out of glass.
Yup - I know where one of those PC detail sanders is gathering dust, unless the squirrels have eaten it by now.

And a Delta bench top scroll saw I haven't used in 20 years.

Worst benchtopper tho is a Sears band saw...
Dang, I gotta havve me a tool sale!
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Anything with the name Rigid on it.
I have never had anything from those guys that lasted more than one job.
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Sorry Tom I`ve gotta call you on this one.

What products have you had troubles with exactly?

My father was a die-hard Ridgid fan and has piles of threaders, pipe vises and fitting tools that he swears by. I find they have some of the best pipe cutters going.

I also have a cordless drill I won that works alright.
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DEWALT D55146 Compressor

Here's why: http://www.contractortalk.com/f40/he...36/#post807872

I sold a few of these during the time when Dewalt bought emglo. A few months aftewards we started seeing some come back doa out of the box. They were sabatoged with coffe cups, candy bars and things placed into the pistons. The story was that dewalt closed the factory and was having everything moved to Mexico, and this was from a few rightfully pissed off employees.
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Old 12-17-2009, 10:40 PM   #132
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Sorry Tom I`ve gotta call you on this one.

What products have you had troubles with exactly?

My father was a die-hard Ridgid fan and has piles of threaders, pipe vises and fitting tools that he swears by. I find they have some of the best pipe cutters going.

I also have a cordless drill I won that works alright.
Ridgid used to be a good company.

Ridgid is a Home Depot brand now, what do you expect?

They're stuff will not last.

I'm looking for a mitre saw stand to replace my broken down Ridgid MSUV.

My ridgid drill set is going under a sledge hammer when I've got free time to do it.
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Old 12-18-2009, 12:36 PM   #133
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Ridgid used to be a good company.

Ridgid is a Home Depot brand now, what do you expect?

They're stuff will not last.

I'm looking for a mitre saw stand to replace my broken down Ridgid MSUV.

My ridgid drill set is going under a sledge hammer when I've got free time to do it.
Ridgid Plumbing tools and Ridgid (Emerson) power tools are two different animals IIRC.
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Ridgid used to be a good company.

Ridgid is a Home Depot brand now, what do you expect?

They're stuff will not last.

I'm looking for a mitre saw stand to replace my broken down Ridgid MSUV.

My ridgid drill set is going under a sledge hammer when I've got free time to do it.

Did you forget the lifetime guarenteee?????
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Did you forget the lifetime guarenteee?????
I was told they no longer guarantee their batteries, and everything else if you don't register them and send in the UPCs they're not covered.

Even so, what are they going to do with the MSUV? Do I have to mail it to them and they mail me another one?

Even if they are lifetime warranteed, I'd rather get something where I don't have to send away for a new one when I really need it. (which is usually when things break)

A ****ty tool is a ****ty tool despite what they attach to it for a "warranty"
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PC444 is not good with the profiles, unless you add some duct tape to the sand paper backing. Still not that great , maybe the VS is better in a slow speed. As a detail pad sander, it works fine.
Ridgid is OK in some areas, not really a heavy use tool, really for DIY use. The plumbing tools are a different animal . I often feel like trashing some tools but prefer to fight it out with the manuf. to make good on the warranty. Any issues I have had with Ridgid have gotten resolved if persistent. BTW, the Ridgid hammer you'll were making fun of , I still use and it was a great buy for $5. Prefer my 20oz. Estwing . My friend is a lefty , gave him one as a gift, they came rt/left handed , his favorite hammer.
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ryobi tools. are great for the occasional around the house job. but keep them the hell off the job site.

ridgid cordless tools. ugh..


thats about it that i can think of. since its the company's money buying tools, we try to buy decent stuff.
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had one, forgot what i paid but i had to have one. It was my first nail gun. Worked great for about two years but you really had to keep after it, keep it cleaned, replace the long thin battery once in awhile as they wore out and the cells inside would break the connections with each other. the 6 dollar fuel cells never seemed to last as long as they were advertised, i would use about 3 or sometimes 4 per box of nails. When it was cold out the gun would be tempermental and would misfire about 5-10% of the time. I must have had that gun completely apart to the last screw two dozen times. When it finally **** the bed and the motor wouldnt run at all i never replaced it. I went with air. I bought a senco pneumatic gun that was supposed to use the same paper colated nails but the angle was slightly different and i returned it the same day for a pneumatic paslode framer.

that long round battery pack is still used in the 16 ga staple gun [which is my favorite impulse]thats what fits in the round hole in your charger
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Dewalt right angle cordless drill.

1. The reversing switch is tiny and embedded in the drill; you've got to use the tip of your finger just right to switch it. Forget it if you're wearing gloves.

2. The chuck has a plastic cowling covering part of it. Why? So it can suck in that skinny web of flesh between your thumb and forefinger. Arrrrrgh!
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Dewalt right angle cordless drill.

1. The reversing switch is tiny and embedded in the drill; you've got to use the tip of your finger just right to switch it. Forget it if you're wearing gloves.

2. The chuck has a plastic cowling covering part of it. Why? So it can suck in that skinny web of flesh between your thumb and forefinger. Arrrrrgh!
I agree... that stock 3/8" chuck on the DeWalt 18V RA drill is a piece of work. The first thing I did was replace it with a decent 1/2" keyless chuck. Now it doesnít pinch my hand like it did before, but because the drill has no shaft lock, I still often friction burn that same area of skin if Iím not wearing gloves, due to running the drill to tighten down a bit in the chuck.
My old 14.4V RA was the nicest one Iíve used for tight spots, but I ebayed it because everything else I have is 18V and wanted all tools the same voltage.

I also used an old Makita 9.6V RA drill many years ago. On that drill the reversing switch hung down below and would often get unintentionally flipped during use, so it seems like sort of a toss up either way as far as switch design goes.

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