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Old 11-14-2009, 05:05 PM   #21
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Makita Recip saw and grinder.
I have this one, and there is an issue with the blade constantly falling out.



I took it in to have it repaired, and they told me it's probably not worth fixing. He said the mechanism that holds the blade in is a ridiculous design. It has 15 different parts, where as most recip saws have about four or five parts, and are more bullet proof, and easier to fix. He said it would cost about $120 to replace all the parts for my Makita.

But I broke down and got the Hilti 36V cordless which works really good, so that's all I've been using. My Makita just sits in storage, but I might take it to another repair shop, maybe they'll have a different opinion.
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Old 11-14-2009, 05:09 PM   #22
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The Bammer. A sales rep showed me this tool when it first came out. I didn't do much trim back then so I was able to resist it. He also told me they were gonna make a Bammer framing nailer. I knew he was full of it. No way could you create enough power that wasy to drive a spike.

Ridgid Suv's have worked fine for me. I bought two for $99 each and still have them both. The wheels make it easy to load into the van by yourself. One of mine even has my old Bosch slide attached to it (Heavy!!) Ridgid cordless are a joke. I have most of the 18v tools and the only one I like at all is the jigsaw. The impact which at the time had the highest torque, we blew it up twice.

The only Kobalt tools I have are the 6 in on screwdriver and a 25 ft tape. They seem to do fine and are warranteed forever.
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Bosch drills and roto-hammers = sucky

Their roto-hammers always seem to get stuck, and the clutch can slip too easy. I have a half inch Bosch drill, and the chuck broke after not much use. Also, they put the trigger lock in the stupidest place, really close to the trigger, I've accidently hit it multiple times then had it spin out of my hands and practically break my wrist. Why put a trigger lock on a drill anyway?
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DEWALT D55146 Compressor

Here's why: http://www.contractortalk.com/f40/he...36/#post807872

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DEWALT D55146 Compressor

Here's why: http://www.contractortalk.com/f40/he...36/#post807872
I know a contractor who owned one and it would trip breakers no matter where he was working, recommended a Jenny because he liked my emglo/jenny and he bought one. Damn thing works better than mine now! Course its 12 years newer.

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I know a contractor who owned one and it would trip breakers no matter where he was working, recommended a Jenny because he liked my emglo/jenny and he bought one. Damn thing works better than mine now! Course its 12 years newer.

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I laughed my ass off when a contractor buddy of mine brought this on the job.
Hi Al,

Well now, DeWalt owns Emglo.
I heard great things about Emglo pre-DeWalt.
I've also heard great things about Jenny.

For my next compressor, I'm going with a Rol Air/Gas.

Some things DeWalt's service center told me:

* Electric compressors are not warrantied for Roofing.

* Electric compressors must used minimum 12 Ga Extension no longer than 25' (even though their site said up to 50' 14 Ga was fine!).





@ the Robo Hammer!

I once teased my Carpenter buddy about his little 16oz Claw Hammer to the point that he went out and bought a 22oz Framer!

I felt sad when he got rid of it!

I used to look forward to him pulling it out so that I could ride him on it!
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I heard great things about Emglo pre-DeWalt.



The gas powered were the industry standard in these parts. Every framer either had one or wished they did. We used them daily, 8 hours a day 6 days a week, rarely doing any service work. They typically lasted 5-7 years. I still have 2 of them, one I bought new, the other I picked up used. The used one is one of the last models before DeWalt took over. The other I bought in 2001 I think.
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Bosch

Great name that has gone in the tank. I don't know how many tools I have that have burned out motors, or bearings that have fried or bent, or triggers that went in a month, or a jobsite radio that has no antenna designed into it. But hey....I can throw it across the room!
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, or a jobsite radio that has no antenna designed into it. But hey....I can throw it across the room!
The DeWalt radio sat in storage in my garage due to lack of reception. Then came the Ipod nano. Patch cord from the earphone jack to the auxiliary input and viola. Of coarse I'd prefer not to throw it across the room anymore.
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I'm going to have to go through the truck and see what rubbish I'm still hanging onto!

Lenline Side cutters - Absolutly terrible

Snap-on Side cutters - Almost as bad as Lenline but 2x the price.

Dead-On Annihilator - Heavy, awkard, usless, terrible shock, not good for anything but looking cool.

Stiletto 14 Oz Wood Handle - Great hammer, until the handle snaps.
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I have absolutely no problems with my Rigid 18v tools....
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Any hand held power tool made by any manufacturer in the last 10-15 years. They're all junk. Except Festool, they still make good stuff.
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The DeWalt radio sat in storage in my garage due to lack of reception. Then came the Ipod nano. Patch cord from the earphone jack to the auxiliary input and viola. Of coarse I'd prefer not to throw it across the room anymore.
That was one of the big selling points of the Bosch cube radio was that it was soooooo rugged....then the sales guy picked it up and threw it across the room.
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That was one of the big selling points of the Bosch cube radio was that it was soooooo rugged....then the sales guy picked it up and threw it across the room.
I was at a trade show when the first DeWalts came out. They weren't even available yet, had to get it by advance order. Anyway, several hundred people were milling around, big dude speaks up to clear the crowd and tosses the radio about 12' in the air. Picks it up, adjusts the tuner and asks who's interested. I had to have one. Now I'm on #2 with the digital tuner. Not much better than the dial tuner. It sounds great with the Ipod hooked up though.
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Never met a Bosch cordless drill that had good batt life or held a drill bit properly. Will NEVER buy one again!
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Comparisons, one tool to the next:

Dewalt angle grinders from Home Depot are crap. For some reason, Dewalt makes a version for the Depot that is crap (we call them job grinders - they only last through the job you're on), but I go to AW Meyer in Ridgefield, and they have a different model number for the same size wheel, and they last years.

I have these little Dragster 88 welders that one of my foremen talked me into buying a few years ago. They're paperweights right now. You read the fine print and the duty cycle is 12%. Insane.

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Comparisons, one tool to the next:

Dewalt angle grinders from Home Depot are crap. For some reason, Dewalt makes a version for the Depot that is crap (we call them job grinders - they only last through the job you're on), but I go to AW Meyer in Ridgefield, and they have a different model number for the same size wheel, and they last years.

I have these little Dragster 88 welders that one of my foremen talked me into buying a few years ago. They're paperweights right now. You read the fine print and the duty cycle is 12%. Insane.
That "reason" is that almost all major manufacturers who have their stuff sold at Home Depot have to enter an agreement that they must used HD's Chinese tool makers to build their power tools.

It's how HD can offer the same tools for so much less.

Well, almost the same tools...they replace a many of the metal parts with plastic parts.

I'll only buy my power tools from contractor supply stores or lumber yards.

No more HD for me.

This is an urban legend, but of course, anybody from Home Depot is welcome to dispel this rumor that I heard from an industry insider.
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Bosch

Great name that has gone in the tank. I don't know how many tools I have that have burned out motors, or bearings that have fried or bent, or triggers that went in a month, or a jobsite radio that has no antenna designed into it. But hey....I can throw it across the room!

Bosch, I've had great luck with their tools.
Especially their PS40 impact driver.
That thing doesn't die.
Right now, they get my money.

As for their radio...reception sucks, volume control difficult at times (but how many times during a workday do I have to adjust it? Twice maybe?), but as far as their features and sound goes, EXCELLENT!

CD player is well sealed.

Accessory outlets are used EVERYDAY on site (extension cords, car charger for cell phone if I forget to charge my cell, etc...).

Haven't used it yet, but can't wait to use it's iPod mount with plug "into" adapter.

Love the remote (broke my 1st one, called Bosch to buy a new one, they mailed me one FREE OF CHARGE within days!).

And, did you know that you can attach an exterior antenna to it?

You can take out the little rubber mast and put anything in there for better reception. I'll use a coat hanger or some cable and attach it to the antenna of a roof.

Bosch! Are you listening? If you're not going to make a great radio, at least give us digital radio receiver (Sirius? etc...) and a "built-in" MP3 doc or maybe a USB port so that we can transfer files into it.

And YES!

You can throw it across the room!

Or off a roof!

I stand on it.
I sit on it for lunch.
We stack things on it.
It's bulletproof.



Not that I use cordless Bosch tools besides the 10V Lith's,
but if I did, it's nice to know the radio has a built in charger.

(Makita has a great sounding little radio: the white one.
It's small, has great sound and reception and take MP3 players too)
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