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Old 04-19-2010, 07:59 AM   #181
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the new milwaukee design charges batterys now. i havent seen it in town yet. but here in canada the cheapest radio is the makita at $129 it will run off every brand of battery. the milwaukee is $150, the dewalt is $189
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Old 04-19-2010, 08:21 AM   #182
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the new milwaukee design charges batterys now. i havent seen it in town yet. but here in canada the cheapest radio is the makita at $129 it will run off every brand of battery. the milwaukee is $150, the dewalt is $189
they've gone up in price considerably, my milwaukee was 79-89 bucks.
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Old 04-19-2010, 08:42 AM   #183
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theres a big difference in price from us to canada, yet our dollar was worth more two days ago.....

i was looking at hitachi framing guns on the american home depot site, $199 US, at my lumber yard the same gun is $379
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where did you find that combo for 79? must be a typo because i can't find it for anything under 179, hell even the radio alone is more than 79 most places without a battery!
No typo. Home Depot had them for a short time. This was about the same time they were blowing out the Milwaukee 12" SCMS for $299 and DeWalt planer for $299, and a bunch of other things for cheap. They had some great deals earlier this year. Funny thing is that this is the only time I have ever seen them carry that set. Almost like they were trying to get people to buy into the Milwaukee 12V platform.
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I don't know of any cheapie radio that:
  • Be sealed from dust/water/constructioin debri
  • Has an iPod adapter and mount
  • Can take a fall from a roof
  • Can have power tools plugged into it with GFCI
  • Can be knocked around without skipping the CD
  • Have a 12GA cord
  • Can be stood on, sat on, used as a makeshift table with a plywood top
  • Can charge your cellular phone via 12V car port charger

Except this one...



I count at least a dozen times where a cheaper radio would've broken into
smizzerines and where I NEEDED some of the Bosch's unique features.

I think cheap radios are best used on sites where they are stationary (shops, interior work, etc...).

One of the things I appreciate about it is that I don't have to turn it up too loud for it so sound great.

I've had mine now for goin' on 3 years. And it still plays great.
I've been waiting for it to break down so that I can get a newer worksite radio, but it won't die.
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I've had two Bosh Radios and they both died after the warranty was up by two weeks. I have an old Milwaukee bought off the sales rep which sat in his garage for a year so he could drink beer with his buddies, he got rid of it because the new one has a bottle opener. So we will see at a 1/3 the price if this one last more than a year and two weeks.
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not had much bad luck with power tools, but you guys are right about the dewalt job radio and the power box. both are crap in my experience. bad reception and sound compared to the milwaukee. the power plugs in the back of the power box seem useful, but i've seen them trip breakers on a generator while a milwaukee + 3-way combo do not.
Please don't let my Dewalt radio know that it's suppose to be crap- it works just fine for me. The reception is fine. I was on one job where a couple other guys had radios as well. We usually listened to a radio station out of Butte, about 80 miles away, and if a bad storm blew in, it wouldn't come in so clear. However, the two Dewalt radios on the job could often pull in the station when the Milwaukee and Makita radios could not. Additionally, when someone would turn on the satellite radio and FM transmitter in their truck, I could usually pick it up inside the house, where as everyone else would have to have their radios outside to do so. The sound quality might not be quite as great as the Milwaukee, but when your sound is coming off the radio, you can't really tell the difference. Even if I pull out my MP3 player, I'm not all that worried about perfect sound as background noise on a job site.
My radio has been beat up plenty, and exposed to weather when I forgot to take it out of my truck and a foot of snow fell. Yet it never seems to show it. It charges batteries just fine, so I always have a battery ready. About 2 years ago I mounted a 4 gang power splitter box to either side of the cage and then cut back the radio cord and hard wired it into one of the power boxes. Now, besides providing tunes and batteries, it also does an excellent job of splitting power.
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Please don't let my Dewalt radio know that it's suppose to be crap- it works just fine for me. The reception is fine. I was on one job where a couple other guys had radios as well. We usually listened to a radio station out of Butte, about 80 miles away, and if a bad storm blew in, it wouldn't come in so clear. However, the two Dewalt radios on the job could often pull in the station when the Milwaukee and Makita radios could not. Additionally, when someone would turn on the satellite radio and FM transmitter in their truck, I could usually pick it up inside the house, where as everyone else would have to have their radios outside to do so. The sound quality might not be quite as great as the Milwaukee, but when your sound is coming off the radio, you can't really tell the difference. Even if I pull out my MP3 player, I'm not all that worried about perfect sound as background noise on a job site.
My radio has been beat up plenty, and exposed to weather when I forgot to take it out of my truck and a foot of snow fell. Yet it never seems to show it. It charges batteries just fine, so I always have a battery ready. About 2 years ago I mounted a 4 gang power splitter box to either side of the cage and then cut back the radio cord and hard wired it into one of the power boxes. Now, besides providing tunes and batteries, it also does an excellent job of splitting power.
can't speak for your radio, there's bound to be exceptions, but never has it been my experience that the dewalt radios outshine a milwaukee.

never met a dewalt or bosch radio that could pick up a station my milwaukee didn't pick up better.

the milwaukee radios are built like tanks.
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1 thing to remember, theres lots of counterfeit tools out there that have the potential to give a brand a bad name....I've come across lots of fake Honda engines in cheap generators and lawnmowers from the Far East
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I was at a trade show when the first DeWalts came out. They weren't even available yet, had to get it by advance order. Anyway, several hundred people were milling around, big dude speaks up to clear the crowd and tosses the radio about 12' in the air. Picks it up, adjusts the tuner and asks who's interested. I had to have one. Now I'm on #2 with the digital tuner. Not much better than the dial tuner. It sounds great with the Ipod hooked up though.
You were at a Trade Show in 1924?
I guess you ean the first DeWalt Radio's... not the first DeWalts.
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Had a Mastercraft Hawk that lasted 2 days. got dropped 6 inches and all the rivets snapped.

Had a couple buddys workin on a roof 5 stories up, and on the same day they both dropped their fatmax (not extreme) tapes. neither one broke.

All King Canada tools are crap. I burnt out one of their angle grinders in about an hour... Literally. Smoke just pouring outta the thing.

I find the Makita hammerdrills make great mixers. They take insane amounts of abuse and just keep working. Most of the guys don't want to wait for the drill to spin down so they just reverse it to make it stop. Get some prety blue sparks that way. Yet the drill keeps working.
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Not necessarily a fake Honda, just enough substituted parts to make the Honda worthless. When my McCullough's push rods bit the dust, the repairman showed me that it was because of the solid metal push rod guide. It wore right through the push rods! He told me that essentially the motor was a Honda & that he would order a Honda guide which had nylon inserts. A $4 part & some push rods & I am back in business.
I wrote McCullough about their need to use the correct Honda part in their repairs & they informed me that they will not use other manufacturer's parts in their engines. Ha!
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This might be a little of the subject but is there a chalk box worth a damn out there?
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This might be a little of the subject but is there a chalk box worth a damn out there?
Tajima is nice but probably not worth $25 bucks. I found a newer cheaper version for $15 but it is not as nice. Chalkboxes are throwaway tools for me. When you do a lot of layout, you have very little patience with a crappy, tangled, or wet box.
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This might be a little of the subject but is there a chalk box worth a damn out there?
i used to like the cheap irwin's, because they were cheap, compact came with chalk, and made a skinny line. the line is super cheap and break easy though.

tried the big fancy irwin and that thing is garbage, never seen one last more than a day.

now i really like the regular cheapo fat max. line is thicker but a lot more durable, easy to refill, cranks pretty easily.

i can't bring myself to spend too much on a snap line though. i still see guys use the old school metal lines with no gearing.
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I use tajima,and I like them alot,they're pricy but I think they're still better than anything else (til they get wet)


any ridgid tool I've ever used I hated,I bought a worm drive on sale,it's got power,but i just dont like it.That's the only ridgid tool that is even slightly worth a sh!t,I know some of you guys are gonna tout the lifetime warranties-- so what now you've got guaranteed sh!t for life! as Tommyboy would say "" if you want me to sh!t in a box and slap a guarantee on the side I will"".Rant over,thanks
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one thing i'll say for rigid is they make some pretty tools, don't think i could get myself to buy any of them though.
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ive always found chalklines to be a bitch, in the winter especially, ive tried all the irwins, all the stanleys. now i just make sure i have a minimum of 4 chalklines in rotation at all times, every job one will break, get soaked or another guy on the crew either doesnt have one with him or it just broke so i end up lending one out. needless in the winter 2 are always at home drying out next to a heat source, a different one will have the gears rust out on it or get stripped so its useless..

so... whenever home depot has the 3 packs of irwins on sale for $10 or stanleys on sale for 50% off i load up on them. the only bad thing is from going on such binge buying sprees i end up with a pile of small bottles of blue or red chalk lying around, which i only use for siding, if im framing i use black or orange
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ive always found chalklines to be a bitch, in the winter especially, ive tried all the irwins, all the stanleys. now i just make sure i have a minimum of 4 chalklines in rotation at all times, every job one will break, get soaked or another guy on the crew either doesnt have one with him or it just broke so i end up lending one out. needless in the winter 2 are always at home drying out next to a heat source, a different one will have the gears rust out on it or get stripped so its useless..

so... whenever home depot has the 3 packs of irwins on sale for $10 or stanleys on sale for 50% off i load up on them. the only bad thing is from going on such binge buying sprees i end up with a pile of small bottles of blue or red chalk lying around, which i only use for siding, if im framing i use black or orange
A couple of years ago, one of our discount stores around here had this cheap chalk boxes for a buck a piece. The box was crap but the line was actually decent. I ended up buying a few and generally just threw them out after they got wet or broke. Wish I had bought all they had because they no longer carry them.
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Do I have to order these tajimas or should they be in any lumber yard or contractor store. I have yet to see them out here. How long have they lasted you?

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