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Old 12-15-2013, 06:58 PM   #1
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Beach No.1 Ceiling Mounted Scroll Saw.


This thing is cool. This is not something one comes across more then once in a lifetime, I suppose at least, because they seem to be really rare.

I actually have a bunch of work coming up real soon that this thing would be perfect for.

Here is a catalog cut: http://www.vintagemachinery.org/pubs/80/3071.pdf

Here is the only one set up I can find:





Here is mine:











It has a clutched or friction drive pulley, the table is in rough shape and the billows for the air pump has seen its better days.

The two things I will need to figure out is how to mount it to the ceiling and what kind of blades to get, or how to modify blades to work.
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:53 PM   #2
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You have room for it?

Did you catch this thread?
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http://www.contractortalk.com/f11/gr...7/#post1907488

Here's their website.
About 1-1/2 hours south of me.

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Room, a specific job and I saw that video elsewhere.
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There is one that has been on Ebay for a while that I've been watching. Watching being the operative word, since I don't have the space for it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121010326452...84.m1423.l2649
I've been looking into doing some marquetry (and dabbling a bit) so it's a "one of these days.." for me.
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That is Barry's saw. Have you looked at something called a donkey for what you want to do?
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The plans for one are in the back of my copy of Marquetry by Pierre Ramond, but I haven't put on together yet. Long story short, I'm probably moving back to New Jersey some time in the late spring or early summer. Once I get relocated I'll see what kind of space I have to work in, but until then more tools means more stuff to move. Also, if he still has the thing I'll be reasonably close enough to pick it up.
I did pick up a veneer saw from Gramercy tools last year and its fantastic. For now anything more intricate gets done with a razor knife or fret saw. It's much harder than it looks!
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Stripped down and getting ready to paint the base.
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It looks like that had a belt drive. How do you plan on attaching a motor to it?
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It looks like that had a belt drive. How do you plan on attaching a motor to it?
Flat belt drive from a motor.
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Progress. Everything on the base is apart and half of the parts cleaned up.

All the wear parts are made of wood. The friction shoes for the drive are wood, the pitman arm, the take up for the lower blade guide assembly, the yoke for the tension springs on the top section is all wood.
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Interesting find..........

Hardly see those around....


hope you do a video of her running,,,,

Thanks for posting.,,



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What are you going to use it for? I understand some of the benefits but it seems they're offset by the amount of room it eats up.

Im quite ignorant when it comes to any of the old stuff.
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I have some exterior corbels to make, really thick ones will be its first work out.

The big advantage with this machine is there is no throat. I can do large sections of decorative fret work for exterior trim on old houses.

The foot print is rather small, one will just have to learn to deal with the upper section mounted to the ceiling.

Plus it fits in well my old, odd an unique colllection of machines that I use to maintain the old houses in my town.
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All the parts on the bottom are clean and painted. I bet I have logged two hours in front of the parts slinger, er buffer with wire wheels.

I am still trying to clear the oil channel inside the drive arbor shaft.

Literature says to file or grind a slot in the blade to fit in the bottom mount. I see no reason for that, this looks like tension pulling up is the only thing that holds the blade in place on the lower mount.

I am kind of sad a little, but I think the table is too far gone to even try and salvage. It has had a good case of ants or the like.

I would like to assemble the lower half and then take the top half apart to clean it.

I guess my only source for blades is cutting up bandsaw blade stock?















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New top will be Cherry.

Bottom is almost back together.

Gave the lower bearings a quick scrape, fixed the oil channel in the arbor shaft issue and did some loose assembly.
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Sweet!!!!!!!!!

Nice ..........!


JMPOV, thick corbels...........

Not going to happen on that machine.....

Gigerbread....Absolutly.....

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Now how else are you supposed to cut out the inside details on a corbel?

Got to make these.
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