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WarnerConstInc. 12-19-2013 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PrestigeR&D (Post 1911457)
BS ~ 1/4" PRJ/3TPI



we OWWM stick together...

B.,

So I need to cut the blade, fish it through a hole then weld it back together on each one?

Yes, I realize I could make a cut through the top back of the corbel, but I don't wanna.

This will cut it just fine. It ain't no delta.:laughing:

Leo G 12-19-2013 12:14 AM

Closed back. Bandsaw won't do it unless you have a penetration cut which will weaken the structure.

PrestigeR&D 12-19-2013 12:18 AM

BS!

You want a video...\\

(Chest pumping Arn)\\


Ill do it.....:thumbsup:

no way on that machine,,,,,,,

not happening,,,,,,


BS ~ HANDS DOWN!

B, (patiently waiting for a response)..

WarnerConstInc. 12-19-2013 12:24 AM

Ok, why can't the beach cut a 2" thick piece of wood to look like the picture posted?

Railman 12-19-2013 12:27 AM

Warner,
You sure have a knack for finding interesting machines!

It looks like that thing has about an 8" stroke! The cut should clean out nicely on thick material as long as you get the right blade. I'm guessing maybe about 6 to 8 tpi on a 1/4" blade would be a good place to start?
Have fun!
Joe

Railman 12-19-2013 12:36 AM

http://books.google.com/books?id=olo...0Beach&f=false

Look at pages 139 & 140

PrestigeR&D 12-19-2013 12:45 AM

not going to happen.....


short blade .......

:no: Frikin way..........




B.

WarnerConstInc. 12-19-2013 12:51 AM

Just how short do you think the blade will be?

Railman 12-19-2013 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PrestigeR&D (Post 1911486)
not going to happen.....


short blade .......

:no: Frikin way..........
B.

Why would the blade be short? The stroke apears to be about 8", which should clean out the thick cut nicely. That's close to what a normal hand saw stroke is.

WarnerConstInc. 12-19-2013 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Railman (Post 1911490)
Why would the blade be short? The stroke apears to be about 8", which should clean out the thick cut nicely. That's close to what a normal hand saw stroke is.


I am thinking my blades will be somewhere around 16" long.


Arbor runs at 825 rpm, that should get me 825 cutting strokes per minute, cut and return per revolution.

Seems like it will cut what I want easily. I guess I will find out.

PrestigeR&D 12-19-2013 01:05 AM

D,

I just don't think its going to be a salubrious outcome......


B, (Tooth direction master),,...sometimes ~Bater)

Leo G 12-19-2013 08:09 AM

Yee of little faith.

That's why you have a festivus tree. :whistling

Railman 12-19-2013 08:51 AM

Blade speed for 825 rpm = 6" stroke x 2 x 825 rpm = 9900" blade travel per minute , div by 12 = 825 ft per minute blade speed. My 30" Tannny bs is around 3,000 ft per min. ...800 should be reasonable. The trick will probably getting the right blade & tension right. I'd start with a bimetal blade, possibly a heavier ferous duty blade with good set, & ground teeth.

Since the stroke is extremely long I don't see why it won't cut anything less than the length of the stroke, say a 6" stroke on 4" material. A Sawzall uses around a 1 1/8" stroke to cut 1 1/2" material fairly easily, albeit not in an ideal motion.

A good while back, I had a guy that wanted to come to work for me. He told me he had invented a recipricating lumber mill, & that it worked really well. If he got it to cut, yours should also.

You could also fashion a blank blade with sandpaper glued ( or maybe clamped) to both sides to sand out the interior cuts. The outer cuts could be done on a ribbon sander.

Have you measured the stroke........on the saw?:whistling
Joe

PrestigeR&D 12-19-2013 09:48 AM

I'm sorry if came across as being negative. I'll shut up......


I hope it works out for you D,






PS (Leave my festivus pole out of this)......:laughing:




B,

WarnerConstInc. 12-19-2013 09:51 AM

If it was an oliver he wouldn't think it couldn't do it.
Of course I would have probably parted it out then....

Deckhead 12-19-2013 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by WarnerConstInc. (Post 1911630)
If it was an oliver he wouldn't think it couldn't do it.
Of course I would have probably parted it out then....

If that was the case after the table saw deal Brian might have made a visit to Indiana! :laughing:

As an aside would it be possible to use a resaw blade?

Two other things:
Where do you find the time to work on these things and get work done?
How do you actually locate these things?

tjbnwi 12-19-2013 10:27 AM

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Carvex, use the long blade, cut from both sides to make the corbels.:thumbsup:

Tom

WarnerConstInc. 12-19-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tjbnwi (Post 1911665)
Carvex, use the long blade, cut from both sides to make the corbels.:thumbsup:

Tom


While I don't doubt it would work, I am not making corbels for a 1868 farm house with my carvex.

They are only 2 1/2" thick.

tjbnwi 12-19-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by WarnerConstInc. (Post 1911668)
While I don't doubt it would work, I am not making corbels for a 1868 farm house with my carvex.

They are only 2 1/2" thick.

Well then you only need to cut from one side.:thumbup:

(My first post was a meant to be a joke.)

If you we're closer I'd be asking to use one of your band saws. I'm going to end up modifying my horizontal to do some vertical work. Guess I should really go look at band saws.

Tom

WarnerConstInc. 12-19-2013 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deckhead (Post 1911659)
If that was the case after the table saw deal Brian might have made a visit to Indiana! :laughing:

As an aside would it be possible to use a resaw blade?

Two other things:
Where do you find the time to work on these things and get work done?
How do you actually locate these things?


I can use whatever kind of blade I want, I am going to have to make them from bandsaw blade stock anyways. A course blade will require more sanding though.

I am doing some shop work so I fiddle with it a little during the day and then hit it hard after dinner until about midnight.

I have my sources to find these things.


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