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Old 12-08-2016, 07:40 PM   #21
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Here is the picture of the MFS I was referring to in the PM.

Note the reference blocks. They're there incase I had to reset the MFS. Had to "move" the slot to where the red tape is to the upper left.

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Thanks.

This is what happens when the architect and client do not communicate.

Finished product.

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This is what happens when the architect and client do not communicate.

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I saw when you originally posted that and I was impressed. I hope you got compensated accordingly.
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Here is the picture of the MFS I was referring to in the PM.

Note the reference blocks. They're there incase I had to reset the MFS. Had to "move" the slot to where the red tape is to the upper left.

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That's the first I've seen of the MFS jig. I could find so many uses for it but I learned it's discontinued.
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That's the first I've seen of the MFS jig. I could find so many uses for it but I learned it's discontinued.
I wanted to buy an MFS right as they were discontinued, but couldn't justify spending that much $$$ at the time, and still can't for some aluminum extrusions.

Here is an MFS 700 if someone wants it.
https://www.amazon.com/Festool-49261.../dp/B000BWFWP0

There are ways around it though. Acrylic can be cut and using double stick tape does a similar thing to the MFS. You can glue a second sheet of acrylic on top then use a follower bit to create any size of box you want that is movable. This allows one to do repairs on solid surface such as Tom performed above. My friend creates a jig on the CNC which also does the same thing. The MFS's biggest benefit is the scales etched into it and the ease of setting up any dimensions within it's range.

One of my favorite things about solid surface is the ability to repair it like no other counter top material. With a professional like Tom doing the repairs you literally never see it without someone pointing out the lines Of course scratches that would leave most counter tops ugly can be quickly sanded right out of a solid surface one.

Edit: This is a reasonable price for aluminum extrusions with numbers. Has both standard and metric systems. Although not as nice as the MFS it should function well enough. Router support on the cutting side might come into play and it look like they make a shoe for the router base.
https://www.amazon.com/Trend-VARIJIG.../dp/B001UQ5PDK

Vids in this one.
http://www.dm-tools.co.uk/product.ph...G#.WEsGxJLz1aU

Write up on the Trend Varijig
http://www.woodworkingcafe.com/forum...-Trend-VariJig

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When they announced they were discontinuing the MFS I ordered a few more. Nice to have multiple pieces and sizes.

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When they announced they were discontinuing the MFS I ordered a few more. Nice to have multiple pieces and sizes.

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I wanted to buy an MFS right as they were discontinued, but couldn't justify spending that much $$$ at the time, and still can't for some aluminum extrusions.

Here is an MFS 700 if someone wants it.
https://www.amazon.com/Festool-49261.../dp/B000BWFWP0

There are ways around it though. Acrylic can be cut and using double stick tape does a similar thing to the MFS. You can glue a second sheet of acrylic on top then use a follower bit to create any size of box you want that is movable. This allows one to do repairs on solid surface such as Tom performed above. My friend creates a jig on the CNC which also does the same thing. The MFS's biggest benefit is the scales etched into it and the ease of setting up any dimensions within it's range.

One of my favorite things about solid surface is the ability to repair it like no other counter top material. With a professional like Tom doing the repairs you literally never see it without someone pointing out the lines Of course scratches that would leave most counter tops ugly can be quickly sanded right out of a solid surface one.

Edit: This is a reasonable price for aluminum extrusions with numbers. Has both standard and metric systems. Although not as nice as the MFS it should function well enough. Router support on the cutting side might come into play and it look like they make a shoe for the router base.
https://www.amazon.com/Trend-VARIJIG.../dp/B001UQ5PDK

Vids in this one.
http://www.dm-tools.co.uk/product.ph...G#.WEsGxJLz1aU

Write up on the Trend Varijig
http://www.woodworkingcafe.com/forum...-Trend-VariJig
I do a lot of custom sized cut outs - typically for the plywood on the back of TV's we mount on vessels. Ideally they have radius inside corners. That means a square jig and a pattern bit. But all of the cut outs are different sizes for different situations.

I may be interested in the varijig. From what I've read the scale is on the middle of the extrusion so it doesn't really help you for exact measurements. I could deal with that.

Have you purchased any extrusions or do you still use shop build jigs?
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I do a lot of custom sized cut outs - typically for the plywood on the back of TV's we mount on vessels. Ideally they have radius inside corners. That means a square jig and a pattern bit. But all of the cut outs are different sizes for different situations.

I may be interested in the varijig. From what I've read the scale is on the middle of the extrusion so it doesn't really help you for exact measurements. I could deal with that.

Have you purchased any extrusions or do you still use shop build jigs?
I typically use strips of acrylic put down with double stick tape. If it wasn't for the cost I would have bought the MFS. At some point I think I am going to go ahead and order the Varijig and give it a try. Almost seems like it is being discontinued. Bummer I missed the $35 dollar blowout at Sears.

The quality seems okay, but I don't like how narrow the rails are. The router only touches the part where the tape measure is as the outboard sides are lower. Wish they made a filler strip for the outside part of the rails at least. So not nearly as stable as the Festool version, which has a wider deck for the router to ride on. This is overcome by using the foot on the router. As to adjustments if you look closely at the edge there is a gap to the ruler part. It appears fairly small, but is present none the less. Maybe a straight edge would help set the width accurately?

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I typically use strips of acrylic put down with double stick tape. If it wasn't for the cost I would have bought the MFS. At some point I think I am going to go ahead and order the Varijig and give it a try. Almost seems like it is being discontinued. Bummer I missed the $35 dollar blowout at Sears.

The quality seems okay, but I don't like how narrow the rails are. The router only touches the part where the tape measure is as the outboard sides are lower. Wish they made a filler strip for the outside part of the rails at least. So not nearly as stable as the Festool version, which has a wider deck for the router to ride on. This is overcome by using the foot on the router. As to adjustments if you look closely at the edge there is a gap to the ruler part. It appears fairly small, but is present none the less. Maybe a straight edge would help set the width accurately?

Could it be used upside down to get a larger router surface? It looks like the bottom is flat the entire width. You could run into an issue with the bearings on a pattern bit but you'd just have to be aware of that.
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Could it be used upside down to get a larger router surface? It looks like the bottom is flat the entire width. You could run into an issue with the bearings on a pattern bit but you'd just have to be aware of that.
These weren't really designed to use a bearing-ed bit, and the guide bushing can ride on either side, so flipping it wouldn't be an issue in that regard. If you can clamp it up, it should work. Trend does sell clamps that are designed to work with the Varijig and only slide into the bottom. Woodcraft has the clamps on sale, and they can be had from Amazon too.

https://www.amazon.com/Trend-CK-Vari...YN0NYSE4SAS9A0
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...A3BUJ4ZPESQSK2
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/152...clamp-kit.aspx

Another option would be to use some 1/8" aluminum and since the extrusion is 1/4" slots, you can just use nuts (t-slot if desired) and bolts to hold something like a 1" wide strip of aluminum on the outside edge to fill it in, thereby giving 2" of material support.
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Buying a 3hp router for plowing stair stringers and other heavy duty work. (Have several intermediate power routers.) Anyone have a recommendation? I'm considering the Festool 2200 but wondering if it's worth the coin.
As a follow up to this I bought a Festool 2200 router and just routed my first set of stair stringers yesterday. The 2200 is an awesome router and I highly recommend it for anyone doing this kind of work.

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