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Old 01-05-2013, 05:16 PM   #1
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1927 Oliver 117-A Bandsaw Restoration.....


I have been leaning on getting this one finished but it was not in line for restoration, AWWM 16" BUZZ jointer was next,.. but,.. I figured since D is working on his Oliver #16 36" I would help out by flooding the Tools & Equipment section with my favorite OWWM - OLIVER....little contribution to the OWWM on CT.

She is getting torn apart and the usual PR&D treatment......
I was so frustrated today trying to find 2 > 5/8 x 72 belts for the drive system.....have to wait until some day next week to get downtown to Pooleys...

VFD has been sitting on her table for over a year...,...Purchased the wiring today...
this is going to be enjoyable...no fabrication....

well,
just a little........

SIDE NOTE: This was manufactured in 1920 and should be listed as such , the invoice says 1929 and i am trying to get some answers on this over at the mother ship.


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Re: 1927 Oliver 117-A Bandsaw Restoration.....


Was that a DD that they turned into a belt drive?

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Re: 1927 Oliver 117-A Bandsaw Restoration.....


....it's the - "A" model..
..http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/609/1329.pdf



Get going.!!.....the race is on!....



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That is a real dusey ! Great find !




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Re: 1927 Oliver 117-A Bandsaw Restoration.....


It's been a shelf for other stuff for over a year,,,,




Not anymore.....


Thank you,...

You should see D's Oli.....sweet,...only problem is he's withholding pictures.....


All in good fun D,..


She costs me $400.00.......

New.......today......comparable Northfield..........

$11,000.00


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Re: 1927 Oliver 117-A Bandsaw Restoration.....


I want to see a picture of the back, without the guard.

The 117 and 116 were just a few years after my 16, but lots of stuff is different.
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Re: 1927 Oliver 117-A Bandsaw Restoration.....


Very nice Brian, I can hardly wait for the progress pics.

You do a wonderful job restoring these old girls.
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Thank you Tom,..labor of love I guess.....

So D,

You think there was a motor there.....don't you,.....



I'll upload that, not tonight.....not in my office....

Yours had both options as we'll.. http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/609/1590.pdf .and there isn't a huge difference.....minor things,,,,guard for the worm gear, skins,....but everything else is pretty much the same ....


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The lower frame section of mine, in belt drive, is quite a bit different, did you look?

In the doc you linked to, the belt drive does not look the same as the DD.
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Very nice looking machine!
For belts, maybe just order these?
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.as...ame=powerTrans

I have used their belts, & they are hard to beat for quality, & value.
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D,
Yours is being shown with a journal for babbit bearings and the shaft if it was built as a belt driven model.

Had to have a way to pour them.......

Babbit era..... Your upper trunnion is ball bearing,... that was special order
Picture on the brochure is showing babbits for the upper wheel....


Thanks Joe,...

I have Pooley here in Buffalo and they have an unbelievable abundance of belts/styles/sizes....however,...they were closed today..

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Re: 1927 Oliver 117-A Bandsaw Restoration.....


This is from the literature about your 117, this was the electric belt drive set up, the frame looks nothing like yours.
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I just find it easier sometimes to just order online, & have delivered to my door. I bet you end up paying double local, & take close two hrs of your time by the time your done....been there, done that!

Looking forward to your project updates,
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D,

I have no idea what your talking about...


That's my frame......Exactly as you put up here....


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Here are the pics you requested D........
The original mount I have but it is so dam big, 16" so I made one out of wood to check for specs and fit and the new mount for the motor has been made out of steel plate...

just trying to save on space...

you'll see,.......

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Fat chance of catching up to you D,....

Next machine,..I lost....



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Brian,
That looks like about a 5hp, 1750 rpm Lincoln...close?
I'm guessing maybe 600-700 rpm final wheel speed?
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As far as the motor mount, I'm guessing the old motors were so big in dia, that they felt the needed to space them farther from the main frame. It also gave more options for HP.
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It's a 2hp/3ph TEFC motor Joe,,,,Yes its a Lincoln ..you know your casings.......


It's not Arn motoring but for now...it is what it is,,,,



They called for a 2-3 on the 117-A , and I did check her her out running....cuts are good,..don't have to be aggressive with the pushing....


Cut a block of Oak 4x6 at the original shop , the 6" standing up...she performed as I expected.....but to be honest,...it has a lot to do with the condition of the blade....as you know....


Wish I had a old 2-3hp motor , I do but that's for the AWWM 16" jointer...


I'll find one,...I'm patient,.....



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Well,
I was able to get over to Pooley today,..$42.18 for both belts...
seems like it's going to work out very well.




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