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Old 01-07-2019, 10:31 AM   #21
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At the age of 11 I was hauling shingles up a 40 foot ladder, the bundle weighed 80 pounds so I had to split it in half, I think I was 80 pounds soaking wet....At 15 I started framing houses in Kissimmee Florida across from the gator land Park zoo, the houses were two and three bedroom single floor And walking the plate was mandatory
(Kid youíre not going to get hurt fallen 8 feet) boy do I remember those days !

Iíve done just about every trade there is, And if you canít take a joke you shouldnít be in construction....Snowflakes melt in a fast environment!
How is gatorland? I always wanted to go when I was younger.
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Old 01-07-2019, 03:09 PM   #22
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Couple years ago the alligator out front caught fire, and the main building also burnt
Which is strange because it’s built on a swamp...lol

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Couple years ago the alligator out front caught fire, and the main building also burnt
Which is strange because itís built on a swamp...lol

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wFflZpYSY5E#
Besides it being flammable is it fun?

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Old 01-07-2019, 07:18 PM   #24
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Yeah it’s pretty cool watching them feed the gators, it’s grown over the years and they did rebuild the gator and the gift shop.

To me if you seen it once been there done that!
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It was not glamorous.

Start when the boss said to start & quit when he said so.

You were expected to roll out and be ready to work at starting time.

Usually got about 5 minutes to roll up.

If you were lucky you got a couple of 5 minute breaks.

Lunch was as long as the boss said it was.

You took a couple of frozen gallon jugs of 50/50 water/lemonade/iced tea to drink all day long.

The only things that happened on a tailgate was lunch & beer after work.

77's had no guards.

You walked top plates, beams 1 or 2 story.

If you were on the ground getting material you ran.

No safety protection of any kind.

If you got hurt you went home and put ice on it and swallowed aspirin & bourbon.

Serious injuries you got marginal care.

Virtually no such thing as stitches.

Some hydrogen peroxide, butterflies & either duct or electricians tape.

Days off were usually Sundays.

No such thing as overtime.

Hurt feelings or thin skinned the crew usually sent you down the road.

Worked rain or shine, didn't care how hot it was or how wet it was.

No excuses for pretty much anything as you were expendable.

Not in any way shape or form knocking any of you younger guys.

Just letting you know how it was.

My time frame is early to late 70's.

Perhaps for some, time has not changed much.

But for most, working conditions have changed for the better.

Hopefully there are a bunch of younger skilled carpenters that will stick with it and continue to improve our profession.
You sound like my Pa! Rough carpentry all day long. He can roof and he’s great at finish carpentry but hates it.

The magical things he can do with a skil saw! He’s still plugging away pushing 70 and he can still outwork just bout anybody sand with half a heart. Heart doc messed up his ticker and lower half muscle is dead
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He’s forgotten more than I’ll ever know! Wish I coulda worked more with him. He married my mom after I moved out on my own. We’ve worked on several projects together but wish it were more
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They stuck me with old man Pete for many years. My job was to make sure he didn't hurt himself. He was a commercial door hanger. Funny thing is whenever anyone had issues including the form setters they came and got Pete to show them WTF. That guy was always angry it seemed. Hell he even yelled at me for speeding on the freeway on my motorcycle. Lol

I learned extremely valuable skills and knowledge from that old man. It's something I didn't even realize until many years later. Even today I find myself asking, "what would Pete do?"


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It was not glamorous.

Start when the boss said to start & quit when he said so.

You were expected to roll out and be ready to work at starting time.

Usually got about 5 minutes to roll up.

If you were lucky you got a couple of 5 minute breaks.

Lunch was as long as the boss said it was.

You took a couple of frozen gallon jugs of 50/50 water/lemonade/iced tea to drink all day long.

The only things that happened on a tailgate was lunch & beer after work.

77's had no guards.

You walked top plates, beams 1 or 2 story.

If you were on the ground getting material you ran.

No safety protection of any kind.

If you got hurt you went home and put ice on it and swallowed aspirin & bourbon.

Serious injuries you got marginal care.

Virtually no such thing as stitches.

Some hydrogen peroxide, butterflies & either duct or electricians tape.

Days off were usually Sundays.

No such thing as overtime.

Hurt feelings or thin skinned the crew usually sent you down the road.

Worked rain or shine, didn't care how hot it was or how wet it was.

No excuses for pretty much anything as you were expendable.

Not in any way shape or form knocking any of you younger guys.

Just letting you know how it was.

My time frame is early to late 70's.

Perhaps for some, time has not changed much.

But for most, working conditions have changed for the better.

Hopefully there are a bunch of younger skilled carpenters that will stick with it and continue to improve our profession.
Wow! Pretty much sums it up for me - Exactly!
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Anybody remember "gas 'n wax" ?
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On the sinkers. We always used Hot dip galvies. No wax or gas.
It's amazing how things have changed. The other day a young guy asked me during the work day if I had any wipes I said "wipes" He then said on never mind.
I also notice that a lot of them have OCD with the battery blower They are always blowing themselves and their bags out.
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On the sinkers. We always used Hot dip galvies. No wax or gas.
It's amazing how things have changed. The other day a young guy asked me during the work day if I had any wipes I said "wipes" He then said on never mind.
I also notice that a lot of them have OCD with the battery blower They are always blowing themselves and their bags out.
Gotta stay fresh. Wipes? Check. M18 Blower? Check.
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Even today I find myself asking, "what would Pete do?"


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I remember laying out 3 baseball fields with Pete. We used tiewire and swung it from home plate.


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So much of what Griz says mirrors my early days -the mid 70ís-
I have good memories, never been seriously injured, except for a torn rotator cuff, labrum, and biceps tendon.
I donít miss swinging a 28 ounce Estwing all day, especially exterior soffit driving 5ís overhead
But I was young and fit, and a young wife and growing family to care for, doing something I loved
And still do
I sometimes think so many young people never give the trades a chance for a career- theyíve been steered into thinking a bachelor degree is the only path to growth
Sad really, weíve lost a generation of tradespeople
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And here is is again.

Every six to nine months, one of you old fossils gets on here and starts an "everything is going to sh!t we used to be tougher we're all screwed because of you sissy millenials insisting on coming home with all ten of your soft ass fingers every day we walked five miles uphill both ways barefoot in the snow to school and we never complained" thread. One of these days I'm gonna go through the archives and make a compilation of them.



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It was harder. We didn't have the tools or products we have now.

No real cordless tools, few things were screwed, most were nailed. Once installed, it was permanent.

Now I have maybe 4 or 5 impacts and drills being used for a multi step task. We used to use ratchets to run lags now we use cordless impacts, sometimes 1/2 inch or bigger. Imagine the time difference when installing 50 ir 100 lags on a deck.

Oh, and don't get me started on the old school Hole Hawgs. No clutch and torque for days.

We had one miter saw. Single bevel 10 inch pistol grip Makita. We would build log homes with that thing.

Even things as simple as rain gear has gotten so much better for so much less.

No simple and available tool storage packout type gear.

Most guys had only a few tools to do the same things we do with many.

Heck, I remember when a sawzall was a big deal. Maybe the boss had one, few actually had Bulldogs, those were rented.

Lasers were rented, as they cost 1,500-2,000 dollars and you rented it for 100 bucks a day to lay out your siding. Which you usually didn't use one.

I'm talking about small time shops. Sure, the big guys had the big tools, but small guys couldn't afford them.

I look at the tools I carry now and it amazes me. We used to be able to carry nearly everything to build a house in the front seat of a truck.

You'd have maybe one drill index, now I have stacks and just buy them on a whim. Same with driver bits and chisels and other small tools.

Just the tools we have for layout and leveling. Laser tapes for 30 bucks, laser levels for 150. I have a small collection of them. I couldn't have imagined it even only 25 years ago.

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And Millennials are pretty soft.

In general.
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And Millennials are pretty soft.



In general.
I'm a millenial, by months.

Nothing soft about me except my kind heart and belly

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I can understand how they old daysí mentality may come off as condescending, but in reality itís just reminiscing
I embrace todayís generation of tradespeople and the new technologies we have available- I work alongside 5 men in their 30ís- 2 of them my sons, with a third son in Phoenix working as a Project Manager for the biggest privately held Const company in Arizona- until he graduated he worked right alongside us
So enjoy the trip down memory lane , I hope your careers have been as fulfilling as mine
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I'm a millenial, by months.

Nothing soft about me except my kind heart and belly

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Way more than months. Ď80-Ď82 is the starting range for us.
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I just make the baby boomer years


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Funny I looked it up and baby boomers go to 64 but generation X starts in 61.


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