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Old 05-02-2019, 01:00 PM   #81
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I actually get to have my say, critics or no.

As for wood foundations and pilings, pilings are used for foundations all the time. If they're wood pilings, it's a wood foundation. Simple stuff. It's how and where wood is used that makes a difference.

I think only a few here have worked with PT exterior plywood, marine plywood (no PT), and just plain old plywood with exterior rating in marine applications. That's some practical experience.
Back to plywood again, are ya?

In other words, you have no practical experience with foundations, wood or otherwise. Just lots of Air Theory.
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Other than stone, brick, block, poured concrete, floating wood and padstone? No, no experience.
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Other than stone, brick, block, poured concrete, floating wood and padstone? No, no experience.
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Let me just throw this into the argument.
About 10 years ago I bought 6X6's rated for direct burial and used them to build wife a raised garden bed.
Last year there was a huge nest of ants coming out of the ground along side one of them.

I went to dig up some of the ground to pour ant chemicals on them.

When I hit the side of the 6X6 that was below grade the shovel went right into it. It was all starting to rot and the ants were nesting in it.


Found a tag on one of the 6X6's that said "Lifetime Warranty".

I googled the company to contact them and they had declared bankruptcy. So, what happens if the company that supplies your wood cheats and then goes bankrupt?


Now just to be fair, I read somewhere months ago that around CT, RI, or MA, there was bad concrete that went into a massive amount of poured foundations. So I guess if the pressure treating company can cheat, so can the concrete company.
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My brother in law had the same thing happen to some big box treated lumber he used to build raised garden boxes. Was junk in a couple years.
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Let me just throw this into the argument.
About 10 years ago I bought 6X6's rated for direct burial and used them to build wife a raised garden bed.
Last year there was a huge nest of ants coming out of the ground along side one of them.

I went to dig up some of the ground to pour ant chemicals on them.

When I hit the side of the 6X6 that was below grade the shovel went right into it. It was all starting to rot and the ants were nesting in it.


Found a tag on one of the 6X6's that said "Lifetime Warranty".

I googled the company to contact them and they had declared bankruptcy. So, what happens if the company that supplies your wood cheats and then goes bankrupt?


Now just to be fair, I read somewhere months ago that around CT, RI, or MA, there was bad concrete that went into a massive amount of poured foundations. So I guess if the pressure treating company can cheat, so can the concrete company.


Well,unlike the wood failure surprise down the road,each and every truckload of concrete could be tested at independent labs.,to insure the concrete meets the required design parameters. Most commercial jobs require it and I highly recommend it for residential work as well. Doing so,will catch a problem BEFORE you pile a quarter of a million dollars worth of labor and material on top of a defective foundation.
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Now just to be fair, I read somewhere months ago that around CT, RI, or MA, there was bad concrete that went into a massive amount of poured foundations. So I guess if the pressure treating company can cheat, so can the concrete company.
It was the aggregate IIRC, something about it having some mineral in it that reacts over time and degrades the integrity of the concrete. So it wasn't even the concrete company cheating, but an unforseen problem that nobody had experienced before and so didn't even know to test for.
If I got that wrong, please correct me!
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Most of the PT lumbet I see in big boxes is junk, and all the local yards witches to the same cheap source. Anything good is a special order now.
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Wood meant for wood foundations has a very high level of the older good CCA stuff and must be specifically stamped for use in wood foundations. It isn't anywhere close to the crap the box stores sell.
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It was the aggregate IIRC, something about it having some mineral in it that reacts over time and degrades the integrity of the concrete. So it wasn't even the concrete company cheating, but an unforseen problem that nobody had experienced before and so didn't even know to test for.
If I got that wrong, please correct me!


That sounds right. So then it wasn't a concrete company cheating.
Thanks for that.

Feel sorry for all those homeowners though.

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