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Old 09-03-2013, 06:42 AM   #1
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Where To Find A Hanger Of This Type?


i have looked every place i can think of for this. thought it would be a simple purchase but clearly not.

I need a hanger like this

but it needs to be able to accept a standard 2x8 so that i can connect it to a brick wall to support one side of a pergola.

Any ideas. i have gone throug about 10 simpson books and the only ones are can find are like above and only do a min of 3.5" beams.
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Old 09-03-2013, 06:52 AM   #2
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Re: Where To Find A Hanger Of This Type?


You could always go to a sheet metal shop and have one fabricated. I have not see simple hangers like that in many years, and if Simpson doesn't list them, you will spend more time looking then just getting them made to order.

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Looks like an LUC hanger to me;

http://www.strongtie.com/products/co...U-U-HU-HUC.asp

By the way, code does not allow you to hang anything off a brick veneer wall.

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It almost looks like a concealed flange joist hanger, punch that into Google.
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After taking another look at the Simpson page I linked, it appears that they recommend the HU series for masonry walls. The HU does not come in a concealed flange (HUC) at nominal lumber widths.

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I may have a couple of those, ill look when I get back to my jobsite.
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Looks like an LUC hanger to me;

http://www.strongtie.com/products/co...U-U-HU-HUC.asp

By the way, code does not allow you to hang anything off a brick veneer wall.

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I couldn't find nothing in my code book concerning it but I called The permit office and they said they have no requirements on pergolas being attached to brick. Almost every deck in this town is attached to the brick so a pergola is the least of their worries lol

Called Simpson and they spec'd the HU28c and said it will work fine for this situation.

Would prefer something a bit more heavy duty.
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The HU is a 14 ga. hanger. It is a little heavier than the LU.

R703.7.3 does not allow any vertical load except self weight on a brick veneer wall. Your AHJ may have an amendment to the code that allows it. Again this applies to a brick veneer wall.

http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/ic...003_par026.htm

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The HU is a 14 ga. hanger. It is a little heavier than the LU.

R703.7.3 does not allow any vertical load except self weight on a brick veneer wall. Your AHJ may have an amendment to the code that allows it. Again this applies to a brick veneer wall.

http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/ic...003_par026.htm

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nope no amendments here. The code says deck has to be free standing but every single house I have ever worked on has them attached to the brick.

Here's the current house deck I'm working on. every house in this area has them done the same. They are $1+m homes to.

they also allow porches to be built like that too. not sure what the code is for porches being connect to veneers but around here all of them are.





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nope no amendments here. The code says deck has to be free standing but every single house I have ever worked on has them attached to the brick.

Here's the current house deck I'm working on. every house in this area has them done the same. They are $1+m homes to.

they also allow porches to be built like that too. not sure what the code is for porches being connect to veneers but around here all of them are.





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Appears as if they are just not enforcing the code then, assuming they have adopted one. Code states nothing can be attached.

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Appears as if they are just not enforcing the code then, assuming they have adopted one. Code states nothing can be attached.

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Inspectors never pull them on it. In 5 years of being here I have only seen 2 built right. One I built and another a couple months back on a real nice house.
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Our hd has those hangers
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Our hd has those hangers
Same here
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I tried there but no stick in either one of them.
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Just have one fabbed up out of stainless. Or paint a steel one. Won't last like a stainless one though.
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It is a concealed flange hanger. Lumber yards who deal with engineered floor systems will most likely have access to them. I got 2 today from my lumber yard when dropping my LVL's. I referenced my Simpson catalogue and it has them named "HUC412" i am pretty sure the "HUC" is the description and the numbers are dependant on beam specifics. Hope this helps?
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R703.7.3 does not allow any vertical load except self weight on a brick veneer wall. Your AHJ may have an amendment to the code that allows it.
It's my understanding that local AHJs can only have amendments that are more strict, not looser. But selective enforcement is something most guys won't fuss about if it's in their favor...
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Any ideas. i have gone throug about 10 simpson books and the only ones are can find are like above and only do a min of 3.5" beams.
could you double them up and run e thin kerf blade across the end of your 2x8's?
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I couldn't find nothing in my code book concerning it but I called The permit office and they said they have no requirements on pergolas being attached to brick. Almost every deck in this town is attached to the brick so a pergola is the least of their worries lol

Called Simpson and they spec'd the HU28c and said it will work fine for this situation.

Would prefer something a bit more heavy duty.
Why? The brick will fail before that hanger...

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