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Old 09-21-2009, 09:18 PM   #1
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Hey, getting ready to build my office and showroom inside our new warehouse building.

Comfortable with wood, but considering steel framing. Pros, cons to making the switch. Never worked with steel studs before. Price? Speed? PIA FACTORS? Things to look out for? THANKS!
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Old 09-21-2009, 09:23 PM   #2
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Got a bunch of them sitting in storage if you decide to go this way.
Could probably cut you a deal.
All new,from a tag sale at Const.Co.
I'll do an inventory if you're interested.

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Got a bunch of them sitting in storage if you decide to go this way.
Could probably cut you a deal.
All new,from a tag sale at Const.Co.
I'll do an inventory if you're interested.
Yes Please I need to get a good deal on materials the customer (me) is a real cheap skate

Although I guess it depends on the feed back I get here. I am also looking for storage racks and shelving for the warehouse.

You ever dealt with Claytons Mercantile Supply oldfrt?
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Yes Please I need to get a good deal on materials the customer (me) is a real cheap skate

Although I guess it depends on the feed back I get here. I am also looking for storage racks and shelving for the warehouse.

You ever dealt with Claytons Mercantile Supply oldfrt?
No,but I've seen a lot of good racks and shelving go cheap locally when retail outlets or constr.co.'s dissolve.

Some of these studs are 2x6 structural,maybe you could build racks?
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No,but I've seen a lot of good racks and shelving go cheap locally when retail outlets or constr.co.'s dissolve.

Some of these studs are 2x6 structural,maybe you could build racks?
Eh I was gonna have the guys build all the racks out of wood, but the low price of used pallet racks made me say forget it. I gotta get something together soon, we have a huge floor space thats starting to become an obstacle course of random material piles.
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Metal has a slight learning curve but once you get it it's fast. If you plan on hanging cabinets just face the area with plywood before you board
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here in Connecticut metal is about 3 x $ of wood, although I like working with it alot. I can carry 20 metal studs easy would not be able to do that with wood. It is easy to cut, I use them mainly in basements due to moisture. I had thought you couldnt build a loadbearing wall from metal.
Not sure what the previous post meant by structural.
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here in Connecticut metal is about 3 x $ of wood, although I like working with it alot. I can carry 20 metal studs easy would not be able to do that with wood. It is easy to cut, I use them mainly in basements due to moisture. I had thought you couldnt build a loadbearing wall from metal.
Not sure what the previous post meant by structural.
Steel studs can and are used for load bearing walls.
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Steel studs can and are used for load bearing walls.
There are different guages of metal framing componants rated for different purposes. In the early 80s I built a medical facility entirely of metal framing to save on the cost of fire code compliance issues. I think it was a US Gypsum system.
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Once you get the hang of metal studs, especially for partition walls, you most likely won't go back to wood. Been using them every chance I can for years, faster and more accurate, and no worries about warping or bowing, and my electrician loves them. Very little drilling for the wiring. As others have said, there are several guages, like lighter 25 guage for general non-loadbearing partition walls to down to 14 guage for structural framing.

There ae some specialized tools that make steel framing go even faster, but it still can be worked with the tools you probably already have.
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I've found I can go way faster with a nail gun and wood then I can tinkering with a screw gun and metal. Maybe it's because I'm not used to metal, but I don't know, the Hatachi framer shoots eight nails a second, I'd like to see someone with a screw gun go that fast.
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the Hatachi framer shoots eight nails a second, I'd like to see someone with a screw gun go that fast.
True, and if wood had a cool track system that it popped into it would be just dandy. I find that steel goes faster, its far lighter, faster to place and magnetic levels stick to it. Unfortunatly its about 3 times the price at the moment.

When wood was more expensive my father renovated his house and did it as cheaply as possible...non-structural walls were metal structural were wood.

What I love about metal is its STRAIGHT, and if you only want a few pieces you don't have to spend half an hour sorting through crap wood at the lumber yard.

I onece installed a rack with a smoked glass door flush with a wall. I looked at the door and saw that it was half an inch out top and bottom. I though WTF my door is bent? so I put on a 4 foot level, door was perfect crown of the stud caused the bow. Bottom line is if you want a straight beautiful rot resistant, termite proof wall that doesn't drive the automation installer nuts trying to figure out why his $650 door arrived bent then use metal!
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For interior non load bearing walls steel is the way to go.Faster and easier IMO.Around here tenant improvements are pretty much done with steel exclusively..
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Yeah, I'll vouch for the structural steel stud statement.
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..........and I was just going to build a shed with them
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..........and I was just going to build a shed with them
You can feel free to come build my office with them. I need a handicapped bathroom too
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Yeah, I'll vouch for the structural steel stud statement.
I've seen dock plank set on structural steel studs. I look at it a few times before I walked into the building.
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You can feel free to come build my office with them. I need a handicapped bathroom too

Can I bring my partners?
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Can I bring my partners?
I think you got the wrong picture, thats my crew
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..........and I was just going to build a shed with them
We'll be starting the mechanicals shed in a week or two. I think I'll start a thread for that project.

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