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Old 06-30-2015, 07:40 AM   #1
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Is This Sidewalk Construction "typical"?


Is this sidewalk construction "typical"?-imageuploadedbycontractortalk1435667793.590266.jpg

I have never seen anything like this before. Inside the 28" tall forms are feed bags filled with fill dirt. Rebar is nearby, guessing they will tie it together soon.

Any concerns with this?
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:52 AM   #2
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I wouldn't think there would be problems. The bags are odd though.

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Never seen that method before, I would imigine the face wall with be getting the stone treatment.
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Bizarre. I'm no concrete guy, but that seems a little odd. Why didn't they just wait until final grade was in (or at least close)?
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Re: Is This Sidewalk Construction "typical"?


What ever they doing there it seems they know what they doing and done this way before. The forms look real good, nice and straight with lots of bracing.
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We use feed bags with 3/8 grid in the field, 5/8 and bigger in the beams. 4" of mud.

Feed bags just make it easier to hold the fill out of the beams, especially when compacting. How i was taught, my grand dad did it that way 50 years, no structural cracks.
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I've never seen a sidewalk done this way. Looks like they will need a handrail on both sides if they leave the grade as is.
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To late to lower the house to the grade line?? Next best thing, raise things, and fill in the cracks!
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Definitely looks like it will receive fill.
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Keeps the fill in center, allows cement to flow to edge,
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I hope they have some drainage set up for that space between the sidewalk and the building.
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I hope they have some drainage set up for that space between the sidewalk and the building.
doubt it. Doesn't appear to be any sleeves for future irrigation or electric, so I doubt there is a pass through or any kind of drainage. Probably just fill dirt up to the level of the sidewalk or just below
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Any updates on the "sidewalk" pour?
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I hope they have some drainage set up for that space between the sidewalk and the building.
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Forms look good, they must be using the fill bags as an alternative to a compaction test on fill dirt over 12" deep. I think Jaws's Grandpa had it spot on! And at least if the fill around the side walk washes out you will NEVER have washout under the side walk slab. I just don't understand why they would do it this way instead of waiting on more fill to be brought in around the surrounding areas and then frame and pour the sidewalk. Huge tree next to it with bad roots?
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I guess that explains why the stone is set two feet above existing grade .
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I'm thinking moat....
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The bags are great way to do concrete steps. You can crawl all over then when forming and they don't go anywhere.
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doubt it. Doesn't appear to be any sleeves for future irrigation or electric, so I doubt there is a pass through or any kind of drainage. Probably just fill dirt up to the level of the sidewalk or just below
Judging by the foundation ..Your right The fill will be level with the sidewalk.
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Looks like foundations for the concrete sidewalk. Less moving for the walk in the cold states. Pull a trench with a 3 foot bucket and throw some bails to fill. Grade the rest and call it quits. Just a guess.

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