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Old 05-08-2010, 07:33 PM   #1
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Hello all and thank you for any assistance. I have a project I am working on for a customer building a food shelter which will be 4' underground. Sitting on top will be a 4x8 shed (Same dia for the shelter). I am needing to tie the bottom floor together with the cmu wall. I have come up with 2 options however not to confident on the design.

1. Notching out the block where the cells will be filled allowing the 2x8 floor joists to sit inside then pooring the cell so that the top of the joist is flush with the top of the cmu then 3/4 decking, then building the shed on top.

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2. Simply laying a 2x8 flat on top of the cmu wall using tap cons at the fill cells then building out a frame and securing to the top plate.

Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 05-08-2010, 09:02 PM   #2
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Why would you not use anchor bolts or hurricane straps like building a house?

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i agree with the anchor bolts.simple and easy.
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so attach a 2x8 to the inside of the block where the top of the 2x is flush with the top of the block using anchor bolts?
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What kind of work do you do? What is an "outdoor residential co"? Is the block existing? Or will it be all new work?
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First... no engineer, no permits... I have a customer who wants me to build a 4' high x 10' x 8' food shelter underground with a shed built on top. I have built plenty of sheds however this will be a first for me. I have a block contractor who will be completing all the footers, cmu and slab. I made a little drawing to ask the question of the best method to securing the shed to the cmu wall. Have a look... any input would be great thanks.
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I bet they have a book with prescriptive methodology addressing this concern applicable to your locale (we don't know where that is for some reason).

Personally I prefer to place a treated mudsill between the masonry and the wood framing.
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This thread looks familiar

http://www.contractortalk.com/f48/ne...ct-help-78167/
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Knucklehead likes multiple choice.
A.inside
B.outside
C.on top of
D.none of the above
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Looks like if you do the inside it would leave a gap .
How will you get down there?
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a food shelter? What do they think is gonna happen to the world

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